Joe Webb Is NOT A Starting Quarterback

Joe Webb is not a starting quarterback in the NFL. It is that simple.

Some people may disagree with that statement, especially those that watched him this past Sunday against the Lions or saw him lead the Vikings to an improbable Monday night win over the Philadelphia Eagles last year.

Joe Webb is a fantastic athlete. A former quarterback at UAB, Webb was originally drafted by the Vikings as a wide receiver. He jumps really high. He runs really fast.

But he is not a starting quarterback.

joe-webb-vikings-minnesota-qbFirst of all, Joe Webb has thrown only one career touchdown pass in the NFL. That includes preseason games as well. That touchdown came towards the end of the fourth quarter this past week against the Detroit Lions. One touchdown pass in 114 attempts. Not many starting quarterbacks in the NFL have that low of a pass-to-touchdown ratio.

As you can probably imagine by looking at that previous stat, Webb isn’t that great of a passer. There is a reason he was thought to be a receiver by scouts coming out of college. There is a reason that the Vikings went with untested rookie Christian Ponder after they benched Donovan McNabb.

Joe Webb is like JJ Barea; a great change of pace guy that other teams aren’t quite sure how to play against him. If teams don’t know when Joe Webb is coming into the game, it is very difficult to scheme against him.

Detroit spent all week game planning for Christian Ponder. Now all of a sudden Ponder gets hurt and in comes Joe Webb. Webb and Ponder have two very different styles of play. While Ponder is quite athletic himself, he is a pass-first quarterback who looks to stay in the pocket and complete passes downfield. Webb is a guy who likes to break contain and make plays with his feet or find a receiver who has been able to break free from coverage somewhere in the 10-15 yard range due to his ability to break contain.

If teams have a full week to game plan and multiple game tapes to study against Joe Webb, he would not be nearly as effective as he would coming off the bench. Teams would be able to install a linebacker to spy him, take away underneath throws, and force Webb to throw the ball in difficult spots down field.

Joe Webb is a great backup quarterback. He is a change of pace guy that other teams can’t afford to game plan against just in case he comes into the game. He is a different style of quarterback than most others in the league. There are few like him, but there is a reason for that. There is a reason that there aren’t many starting quarterbacks in the NFL like Joe Webb. It just doesn’t work. Athletic quarterbacks who rely on their legs more than their arms don’t last. Teams have found a way to defend against it.

Should Joe Webb have started against Detroit in the first place last week? Probably, yes. Did he instantly make the Vikings a better and more exciting team when he entered the game? Yes, he was a better QB that day than Christian Ponder.

Should another NFL team look for Joe Webb to be their starting quarterback? No, at least not for now.

 



About Drew Lange

Drew is a student at North Dakota State University in Fargo, ND. He is a life long Vikings fan and distracts himself from their futility by watching a lot of TV and listening to a lot of music, even though his parents don't understand the appeal. Follow on twitter (@drewlange) or send an email to d.lange9@gmail.com

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  1. "Athletic quarterbacks who rely on their legs more than their arms don’t last. Teams have found a way to defend against it." Makes you wonder how long Tebow would last.

    • The Big Bobber says:

      Webb is a triple threat type player. He is an adequate passer; he is also an adequate receiver as he demonstrated against Denver. He can even return kickoffs. Having said that…he can score from anywhere on the field which indicates that this guy needs to be on the field much more than he is. Now with Sage Rosenfels added to the squad, Joe Webb has to be included in more plays…Period!!!

      • I completely agree with this. It is obvious that the stupid "Blazer Package" from early in the year isn't the answer. Whether it is getting him snaps at receiver or even bringing him in for a series or two at any random time during the game, a la LSU does with Jefferson and Jarrett Lee.

      • skollvikes says:

        you're right just not at qb. he is not an adequate passer please dont kid yourself. he looked like a high school quarterback out there against the lions. had at least three balls dropped by lions defenders and a couple more that were batted down by our wr's who had to turn into defenders after webb was lobbing up pass after pass into double coverage. he's a good BACKUP. nothing more.

  2. Guest (Mpls) says:

    @Jared, First "Would last" would indicate that he (Tebow) had yet to showcase his skills.
    Unless you've been living under a rock the last 3 months …Tebow has shown that while may the
    delivery may not be the most proficient, he has gotten the job done. Over and over.

    His 4th quarter QB rating over these past 8 weeks rank ahead of every other QB in the NFL…that
    includes Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees.

    As for Joe Webb….his speed and decent open field vision to me scream he needs to get the ball more often,
    in space, so he can use that athleticism to get the ball and try and score.
    His accuracy as a thrower (which is different then a passer) is Gawd awful…..it would be nice to have
    him as an emergency QB who plays WR and returns punts and/or kickoffs …but that would indicate that we had
    2 QB's on the roster who were capable. I'm not convinced yet that Sage is the guy …and let's face it Ponder hasn't
    shown enough to make a decision on either.
    If we settle or lock ourselves into a player before we really know what we have is how we bypass upgrades at
    positions (and why we hung onto a guy like Troy Williamson or Erasmus James far far to long)

  3. Truly. Joe Webb should be a WR. He can run the 40 in 4.4, he can jump 7 stacks like its his job, and he has great hands. If the Vikings know whats best for them (which they sadly do not), they will transition Joe to the WR position. It doesn't matter if you think hes a good/bad/great/decent passer, hes INSANELY athletic and that alone is worth something. Chilly Willy made him a backup QB, and now its time to make Sage backup and put Webb where he belongs.

  4. Well actually the LIons were gameplanning for Webb all week because ponder was questionable, and they still couldn't stop him!

    • FavreFan500 says:

      “Our hat is in full off position to Joe Webb because he was very, very difficult for us to handle. We tried everything. We were spying him with five guys, we were spying him with four, we were playing coverage – we were all-out blitzing him." -Jim Schwartz

  5. FavreFan500 says:

    This does not prove Webb is not a QB. You claim he isn't a passer, because he has only one passing TD even though passing TD's might be the most overrated stat in football. You could ride your running back 80 yards down the field and dump one in near the goalline and get a TD when another qb could lead his team downfield and the coach decides to punch it in with a running back at the 1 yard line. Also, Joe Webb has used his feet to score TD's and I don't care how he scores, he puts points on the board. Webb had 3 drives, two TD's and took us to the 1 yard line on the final drive. I'll take that any day. Also, you fail to note that Webb has a higher career completion percentage than Ponder which is a far more relevant statistic when examining a QB's passing ability. Not to mention Ponder is a turnover machine and Webb has proven that he can make good decisions and protect the football. Webb beat the Eagles with his arm not his feet and when the Lions adjusted he was able to continue to lead quality drives by making good decisions and getting the ball to the open receiver and letting them make plays. Just because he can run also should not disqualify him from competing for the position.

  6. Webb isn't a starting QB yet… He is a rough project QB and needs time to develop. He's basically a younger Mike Vick-type QB. If you think Ponder is NOT the answer. He'll never live up to #12 overall pick expectations, when he has an average arm at best, questionable decision making, never been able to throw the deep out and struggles reading and anticipating what defenders are going to do in zone coverage, and has he never seen a DB in trail-technique? These were all issues he had playing at the collegiate level. Although there is some improvement with coaching at the professional level, he's going to be a second tier QB at best. On occasion he might scratch into the top 10. But year in and out he'll be ranked somewhere between 12-21. I hope 2 or 3 seasons from now you write an article about how Ponder hasn't lived up to his #12 overall pick expectations so i can reply with "I told you so"

    • If Ponder can be a top 12-15 QB, I think I would take that. I don't think anyone expects him to be Tom Brady, but if he can be Matt Ryan, I'm okay with that.

  7. I meant to say if you think Ponder is the answer, he's NOT.

  8. ALLRITE PEOPLE I WORK FOR A LIVING AND I AM TIRED OF THESE SPORTS REPORTS MAKING A LIVING AN ACTUALLY HURTING THE WORKING MAN(JOE WEBB) BY PUTTING OUT FALSE ARTICLES. I DONT KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF TOUCHDOWN PASSES WEBB HAS THROWN BUT I KNOW HE THREW ONE TO RYAN D'IMPERIO AGAINST SEATTLE CAUSE I WAS AT THAT GAME. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT JOE WEBB AT 1-3 IS BETTER THAN CHRISTIAN PONDER AT 1-6. IF TEBOW CAN DO IT. JOE CAN DO IT BETTER. HE HAS A BETTER LOOKING THROWING MOTION THAN PONDER AN THE ONE TEAM JOE BEAT(EAGLES) DOSENT EVEN COMPARE TO THE THE 4-9 PANTHERS. YET AFTER ALMOST COMPLETING AN IMPROBABLE COMBACK AGAINST THE PLAYOFF BOUND LIONS CHRISTIAN PONDER IS STILL THE STARTER. AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY?? BECAUSE HE WAS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THE VIKINGS DONT WANT TO ADMIT THEY MADE A MISTAKE BY DRAFTING SOME MEDIOCRE QUARTERBACK WHILE THEY ALREADY HAD THERE STARTER.

    • Thanks for the comment Nate. I'll let Drew respond. I'll just ask, and I think I speak for everyone when I request: please turn the Caps Lock off next time.

    • Better looking throwing motion? I disagree, as well do the other people who have left comments on this story. Not sure who or what we are comparing to the Panthers. Mistake drafting Ponder? Too early to tell. He's not going to be the greatest QB in the world after 9 starts. Chill out. Take the caps lock off and maybe we'll talk this out over some smoked salmon and a bottle of whiskey. But only if you pay and promise not to yell.

      • FavreFan500 says:

        I don't disagree that Ponder COULD yet be a solid qb, but why not look at Joe Webb as well. Every time he comes into the game whether vs the Eagles last year or his limited action this year he shows ability to move the offense by making good decisions, passing accurately, and running the ball. On seven possessions with Webb at qb this season he has accounted for 5 TD's. He has a higher completion percentage and qb rating than Ponder and hasn't shown the interception problems and that is without even mentioning his dynamic running ability teams struggle to stop. Ponder has only had nine starts, but Webb has had less than that and looks better so far. Let Webb compete for the job. There is absolutely no reason it should be Ponder's outright at this point.

  9. dave bartlet says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wX-I7KZjRU

    watch this and tell me he isn’t a starter.

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