Vote: Who Should Be the 2009 NFL MVP?

Last night I had a very entertaining Twitter conversation with our good friend Robert Littal of Black Sports Online regarding who should be the NFL MVP in 2009.

Robert is a strong proponent of Titans’ running back Chris Johnson, and with good reason. Johnson had one of the most statistically impressive seasons of an any player at any position in NFL history.

I took a little bit of a different view, stating that Johnson’s position (RB) and his team’s record (8-8 and out of the playoffs) puts him at a reasonable disadvantage in comparison to quarterbacks, who play a much a tougher position, who have terrific individual seasons while leading their teams to 12-, 13-, 14-win seasons.

And we had three such quarterbacks this year, all of whom I rank ahead of CJ when it comes to the 2009 NFL MVP voting.

And, for the record, the conversation between Robert and I started because he took exception to Peter King leaving 2,000-yard man Chris Johnson of his 2009 NFL MVP top 5. (For the record, King did name Johnson as his All-Pro running back and named him Offensive Player of the Year.)

Robert thought it was another manifestation of King’s trend (and it’s a real one) of favoring quarterbacks for MVP. With Johnson having perhaps the greatest individual season ever by a running back (NFL record for most yards from scrimmage), Robert thought it was a given that Johnson at least be a top 5 candidate.

King, however, felt that Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers were all more worthy candidates.

I disagree with King on the last two, but agree wholeheartedly with him on the first three. Here is how my 2009 NFL MVP ballot would look if I actually had a vote:

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1 – Peyton Manning, Indianapolis

He was statistically superb, as always, and did not allow his team to lose a game in which he was actually allowed to play four quarters. His efficiency and ability to always deliver in the 4th quarter for the Colts actually ended up hurting his overall numbers.

Had the Colts been 12-2 rather than 14-0, he would have had another 5-6 quarters of stats to add to his already impressive line: 4,500 yards, 33 TDs, 99.9 QB rating. And the numbers don’t really tell the whole story, because Manning actually threw 16 INTs this year.

But watching the Colts play this year – in games such as the Miami game when Indy won despite having the ball for less than 15:00, and the New England game when Bill Belichick was so scared of giving Manning the ball that we went for a controversial 4th and 2 in his own territory, and so many more – it became even more clear that we are watching the greatest quarterback in NFL history.

He very well could be the QB of a 16-0 team had his coach and team president not taken that away from him. Peyton Manning is, unquestionably, my MVP pick this year.

2 – Philip Rivers, San Diego

The most underrated player in football, I believe. He threw from 4,254 yards, 28 TDs, and only 9 INTs. He led his team from a rocky start to being the most red-hot team in the playoffs, and he did it with little consistent help from the running game.

I agree with those who say that he is the Dan Marino of this generation: great arm, beautiful deep ball, fiery leader. Now we’ll see if he can do what Marino never could and win a Super Bowl.

3 – Drew Brees, New Orleans

Yes, Brees and the Saints struggled down the stretch, but they won 13 straight games before that and Brees was the main reason why. He finished the year with 4,388 yards passing, 34 TDs, and and sterling QB rating of 109.6.

And remember: Chris Johnson was not the only player to set a great record this year. Brees eclipsed the all-time single-season mark in a very underrated statistical category for his position: completion percentage. Brees finished the year with a mind-boggling 70.6 completion percentage. The previous record-holder, Ken Anderson, set the record during the strike-shortened season of the 1980s.

(Note: I waffled back and forth on Rivers and Brees between #’s 2 and 3. I ultimately went with Rivers because he played a little bit better down the stretch, but it’s splitting hairs.)

4 – Chris Johnson, Tennessee

You can’t deny his greatness. And I agree with King that while Johnson is not the MVP, he is the Offensive Player of the Year. The numbers speak for themselves: 2,006 rushing yards, 503 receiving yards, 16 total touchdowns.

When the Titans fell to 0-6, they made a more concerted effort to get Johnson the ball and he responded in a huge way. Much was made of Vince Young’s resurgence this season, and with good reason; but, Chris Johnson’s greatness was a major part of what helped Vince Young go 8-2 as a starter.

#5 could go a lot of ways. Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers are certainly in the conversation. Tony Romo has quietly had a terrific second half of the season in leading Dallas to the NFC East crown. Darrelle Revis has been the defensive star of the year, locking down top WR after top WR. Charles Woodson has been outstanding as well.

In the end, I give the nod to Brett Favre because he really has taken Minnesota to another level. We will see how far he can take them in the playoffs, but do you really think that the Vikings would be sitting at home with a bye during the first week of the playoffs with Sagevaris Rosenjackson at QB?

I don’t.

And while Favre has brought his usual melodrama and engaged in the understated, subtle me-first actions that have become his custom late in his career, he’s also played brilliant football for the most part. 4,202 yards, 33 TDs, and a 107.2 QB rating. Wow.

He’s helped turn Sidney Rice into a star, found ways to utilize the unique talents of Percy Harvin, and has allowed Adrian Peterson to stay relatively fresh for the playoffs.

Minnesota was already a 10-6 team last year without Favre, which is why I rate him lower than Manning, Rivers, and Brees – all of whom I think did slightly more with slightly less than Favre did  this year – but the old man has proven that coming back wasn’t a mistake.

Now the question is: who is your choice? I’ve listed everyone named in the post below. If you think I forgot anyone, or want to argue with my picks or reasoning, that’s what the comment section is for. Have at it.

Who is your choice for 2009 NFL MVP?

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    I have a feeling if James Harrison has an equal statistical year to Chris Johnson and the Browns were 8-8, you would put him on top. True/False?

  • villian157

    Chris Johnson was playing during that 6 game losing streak and that didn't help his team at all. No way was he the Most Valuable Player in the league. It has to be between Brees, Manning and Favre.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    Same question but about George Harrison…LOL yeah definitely meant Jerome. I also meant if it was a Brown you would have him number one. I don't believe you. ;)

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JerodMSF JerodMSF

    No, not with all else being equal. I'm always partial to QBs because they are inherently more valuable than running backs. Don't you remember in high school when I ran around the practice field like a fairy with my black "don't touch him" jersey on? It's all because of value baby!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/eastenn eastenn

    Peyton Manning has carried an 8-8 team to the best NFL record for last 10 years…play offs every year…..every play…….. every comeback ……..I know he gets boring every season…….just doing what others can only muster once in awhile. Brady couldn't carry a soso team…..nor could Rivers they have really good teams around them….
    …that is how good # 18 is……….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    The other way around. I would say the defense didn't help CJ out. Remember that Pats game?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    I'm pretty sure Brady carried a "so-so" team to their first Super Bowl against the mighty Rams. He can do the same. That said, Manning in the unanimous MVP this year despite this poll.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/eastenn eastenn

    I am glad we agree………but the PAT's that year( stopping the Greatest Show on Turf ) and every year had more defence than the Colts have had in 10 years…….plus they had a running game….thats my point on Manning……just not that great of a team around him………….I wonder had the QB's been flipped…would Colts had even made the play off's…..10 years and counting…..as for Peyton on the Pats……he and Belilchec …..would have killed each other over play calls
    .

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JerodMSF JerodMSF

    I assume that you mean Jerome Harrison…

    And yes, if Jerome Harrison set the NFL record for yards from scrimmage and led and team that switched QBs from 0-6 to 8-8…he'd be in my top 5 too.

  • Viks fan

    QB's get to much credit in the NFL. Without a good O-line and receivers that can grab the ball, Manning would be another Carr. The MVP should go to someone who actually deserves it for a change. Give it to Chris Johnson, the man can make a play out of nothing. Yes his line is helping him this year and no they are not the best in the NFL.

  • mvp?

    I agree. You can have the best player on the worst team and they never get credit. This isn't about the best team record or the best comeback. This is about one player. CJ gets my vote.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JerodMSF JerodMSF

    I am not sure it is possible for me to disagree with this comment more.

    QBs do NOT get too much credit in the NFL. Ask any informed observer and they will tell you that QB is far and away the most important position on the field. It's not an opinion; it's a fact.

    And how anyone could compare Peyton Manning to David Carr is beyond me. Not sure that even warrants being dignified with a counter argument.

  • Viks fan

    I'm not surprised that Comparing the Manning to Carr situation would be beyond you, I didn't compare Manning to Carr as qb's just the qb situations. You need to dig into thought on this one. I still believe Carr would have been an awsome qb if he didn't get the crap beat out of him at the start of his career. I am simply saying that if you have a great player on a crap team, that great player will get no credit. If you have a good player on a great team, the good player will get more credit that they deserve. Did anyone ever hear Terry Bradshaw's hall of fame speech? He's a qb that knows he would have never made it anywhere without the rest of his team.

    I'm not saying that Manning or anyother guy out there doesn't deserve the mvp. I'm saying that you need to look at guys other than the qb's. CJ is a work horse and I feel he has brought more to the table week after week.

    Thanks for the under toned insult that I am not an informed observer.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    Favre is still winning the voting, not that this is an all end all poll for the real MVP. But is that another reason why Colt fans are lame or am I being too harsh?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/KVB KVB

    We can agree on the Manning being the MVP for sure. But being a Rams fan I remember their offensive blunders being a bigger factor than the Pats D. The Rams had over 420 yards of offense, 26 first downs, etc. The INT for a TD from Warner and an in opportune fumble by Ricky Proehl turning into six. But like I said I'm a Rams fan so I attribute that to bad Rams offense over great NE defense.

    I believe in Brady's leadership and ability just as much as Manning's I don't see why others don't. Unless they are jealous Colts fans. We will also see innovation and adjustment out of Brady in these playoffs without Welker and have a better idea. Or we are all just over analyzing everything.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/eastenn eastenn

    It doesn't matter if Peyton wins this year…..refering to the Colt haters QB enving comments……..he will have every one of Farves and everyone else's records when he retires ….. also it won't take 20+ years to do……and there is …NOTHING… that the rest of you Manning haters can do about it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Favre4MVP Favre4MVP

    Everyone keeps saying that the vikes were 10-6 without Favre so he didnt really do much but it's not like Manning took a non playoff team to the playoffs this year.. he also had a playoff team that was better than the vikings last year so to say Favre didn't do much and Manning did is a joke.. cuz this year a 10-6 record is not a record that will get you into the playoffs.. and it didn't take Favre 20+ years to set records.. he did it in his 16th year and his first year he didnt start in Atlanta, unlike Manning's first year where he did start.. so really it took Favre less than 15 seasons to set the records because the first game in 1992, Favre wasn't the starter for the Packers until the second game.. and i doubt Manning will be as durable as Favre, especially seeing he hasnt been hit or hurt like Favre.. i.e. Favre: broken right thumb, torn rotator cuff (which he is playing with right now and played with it last year), torn right bicep, fathers death/wife's breast cancer/brother in law's death all in the same year, very hard to stay focused with all that going on.. Favre is the best

  • Guy

    I love all of the biased opinions in the voting poll. You can always tell when someone is a fan of somebody. They will vote for someone like Favre because they are a Favre fan, or because they are a Manning hater. That is why I don't pay much attention to the polls because stats don't come into play, favoritism does. There is one big thing that will net Manning his 4th MVP title over Favre, that little NFL record 7 come from behind wins this season. Manning is a master of his game, and truly one of the greatest to ever play. He has led his team to the playoffs 9 out of the last 10 years, and he did it this year with the worst rated running game in the league. Favre is only getting considerations because he led his team to the playoffs, being a 40 year old man,

  • hdBoyd865

    exactly cj still had over 100 yards in that game haha… my opinion on this is that the award should go to the best player of the year. thats the point isnt it? chris johnson had probably the best season ever by a runningback(broke record for most yards from scrimmage) while helping his team come back from on 0-6 start to finish 8-8. yea peyton and drew brees teams made the playoffs and their TEAMS did extremely well, but they didnt break any records or have any type of phenomenal statistical year. cj gets my vote by a landslide

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JerodMSF JerodMSF

    Just my opinion. I like Favre a lot, and he's been terrific this year…I really think it's close to splitting hairs after Manning, who I think is the undisputed MVP. Good for Favre though for winning the fan vote. That was ultimately the goal of this post anyway. Who really cares what I think…I don't have a vote. We'll see who wins the real thing. I would be amazing if Favre, with all of the offseason turmoil, ended up winning the MVP.

  • OCCOMBILL

    Newsflash guys; the Colts didn't go undefeated and you shouldn't award an MVP based on what might have happened (not to mention Bill Belicheat's bonehead decision saved him from a loss.) So let's look at what did happen:
    Peyton Manning turned in the 6th highest quarterback rating this year, behind the best offensive line in the game. Not bad.
    Brett Favre turned in the 12th highest quarterback rating in the history of the game, behind a mediocre offensive line.
    Drew Brees turned in the highest quarterback rating this year… but he too plays behind a fabulous offensive line.

    The result of your poll demonstrates the absurdity of your ranking. Favre and Brees should be the contenders and Manning should get an honorable mention at best. Obviously, you're a Colts fan and it's clouding your judgment. 5 Quarterbacks, all with worse O-lines performed better than Manning this year. Hands down, he's a hell of good QB, and will go down in history as one of the all time greats, but he was not the MVP this year. Not even close.

  • OCCOMBILL

    Newsflash guys; the Colts didn't go undefeated and you shouldn't award an MVP based on what might have happened (not to mention Bill Belicheat's bonehead decision saved him from a loss.) So let's look at what did happen:
    Peyton Manning turned in the 6th highest quarterback rating this year, behind the best offensive line in the game. Not bad.
    Brett Favre turned in the 12th highest quarterback rating in the history of the game, behind a mediocre offensive line.
    Drew Brees turned in the highest quarterback rating this year… but he too plays behind a fabulous offensive line.

    The result of your poll demonstrates the absurdity of your ranking. Favre and Brees should be the contenders and Manning should get an honorable mention at best. Obviously, you're a Colts fan and it's clouding your judgment. 5 Quarterbacks, all with worse O-lines performed better than Manning this year. Hands down, he's a hell of good QB, and will go down in history as one of the all time greats, but he was not the MVP this year. Not even close.

  • Favre 4 MVP

    LOL @ you blackballing Favre out of your top 4 and he's still dominating your poll. Don't have him at #1 fine, but not even top 4?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JerodMSF JerodMSF

    Bill, I appreciate the comment…but clearly this has to be your first visit to the site. Otherwise you would know that I hate the Colts and think they have some of the worst fans in football. I do, however, the respect the hell out of Peyton Manning. And if you want to go just by QB rating, find…I guess you're right that Manning has no shot. But as with anything, numbers tell only a part of the story…and QB rating even tells only a part of THAT story.

    The truth is that all of these guys had terrific seasons. And in a lot of years, all any of them would win the MVP. We just happened to have 5-6 legitimately outstanding performances by QBs and one out-of-this-world performance by a running back.

    Peyton gets my vote because, in my opinion, he plays the QB position better and more consistently excellent than anyone else. Combine that with the fact that his team had the best record, 14-2 (14-0 in games he played all the way through), and that he had to overcome losing his coach and two wide receivers, and to me Peyton proved his worth and value more than anyone. Does it mean that Brees, Favre, Rivers, and CJ weren't valuable? Not at all. They were all AWESOME. But after seeing how deftly Peyton played in the 4th quarters of games when his team absolutely needed him to make a play – and he ALWAYS came through – I simply would not feel right saying that anyone else was more valuable to his team, or in general, than Peyton.

    But please…don't insult me by calling me a Colts fan.

  • Norwood

    Drew Brees deserves the award way more than Favre and Manning do. Brees's QB rating is nearly 10 points higher than Manning's and has just as many great performances, epic comebacks, and clutch drives as Manning does! Manning does not even belong in the MVP conversation because of his inconsistent, unspectacular play all year. And Brees has not faded down the stretch at all! He has 7 TDs vs. 2 INTs in December and has played great in the losses (2TDs, 1 INT 550 yards, 74.4 completion percentage). Brees has transformed a 3-13 team into a 13-3 Super Bowl contender. He's broken the record for completion percentage while leading the league with 8.5 yards per attempt. I like Favre but I don't think he deserves the award over Brees. They should be co-MVPs.

  • OCCOMBILL

    This is what happens when you start with a predisposition; and then desperately try to fortify it with reason. All this yakking about 7 comeback victories somehow elevates consideration for MVP… as if the 7 games in which he was sufficiently productive through the first 3 quarters were poorer performances? That crazy. Barely winning is better than blowing your opponent away? On what planet? Now you want to try to play the New coach and receivers card? Really? This team is built around that ball-hog and in case you forgot; Brett's playing with a new coach, new receivers, new EVERYTHING and took over a system designed around the running game. Still, he was far more efficient than Manning. So were several other QB's.

  • OCCOMBILL

    4500 yards is impressive? This isn't because he's good, it's because he's a ball hog. 9 quarterbacks had higher averages per attempt (but only one took 3 more shots), and none of those 9 had the luxury of standing behind the Colt's Offensive Line. Brett could easily have amassed 4500 yards, but he sits down once he puts the game out of reach (rather than pad his stats.) Manning took 40 more shots than Favre, or Favre would have ended up with 4518 on a level playing field. To put in perspective how unspectacular Manning's less than 7.9 yds per attempt was: Had Phillip Rivers thrown that many times he'd have finished 2 yards short of 5,000 on the same number of attempts. Now factor in how many yards were lost on Manning's 16 interceptions! You do realize only 6 Quarterbacks in the entire NFL threw more picks, don't you?

  • Nick

    What solidifies Manning to another MVP is how horrible Painter looked under the same settings. In which he should have felt no pressure in since his coaches felt it was a throw away game. Not that I really care about this, but that game seemed to turn a lot of heads in favor of him because it looked like Brees was a lock for this until his team tripped up at the end. I hope Favre wins it though.

  • michere

    farve stinks

  • michere

    the viks didnt go undefeated so give it to the team that came the closest

  • michere

    GO SAINTS

  • SAINTS GOT IT

    good night COLTS

  • mark owens

    this is Mark y did yall think the Colts was going to win but they will get like tose saints sumDay. Pierre Thomas keep donig ur thing BABY. Drew Breeze u are jst the best bruhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • patriotsss

    wtf tom brady should be there