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Raul Ibanez Addresses “Pathetic and Disgusting” Steroid Speculation

by Jerod @ 2009-06-10 134 Comments Email Post

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This morning in the Philadelphia Inquirer, Jim Salisbury reports about an “angry” Raul Ibanez who is apparently a little peeved at “cowardly” comments made by a “42-year old blogger typing in his mother’s basement” regarding the possibility that Ibanez’s fast start in 2009 could be chemically enhanced.

Though not cited by name, I have to assume that the cowardly idiot in question is Midwest Sports Fans’ very own…me.

A quick recap of the events of the last 48 hours:

A couple of days ago my buddy posted on our fantasy baseball message board and strongly implied that Raul Ibanez must be on something to be playing so great, and that any objective analysis would come to this conclusion.

The next morning, I decided that my blog post for the day will be to prove my buddy wrong by finding as many objective objective statistics (park factors, lineup effects, etc.) as possible to explain Ibanez’s start and debunk the steroid speculation in a perfectly reasonable and objective way.

While researching and typing the article I realized that no matter how much I wanted to completely remove steroid and PED suspicion from my mind, it was impossible for me to do so. Whereas the discussion of Citizens Bank Park and Safeco Field offered specific statistical evidence to draw conclusions from, there was nothing similar for me to draw such a conclusion from regarding steroid or PED use, save for the fact that Ibanez has not failed a test. And while this fact is certainly a strong testament to my personal opinion that he is clean (remember, all I said was that the speculation itself was justified, not that I personally thought he was using) many people would have said the same thing about Manny Ramirez during his ridiculous run last season: that he’d never failed a test. And speculation about him would have been (and perhaps was) shot down as unfair and “cowardly.”

Yet, look what happened at the start of this season to Ramirez.

Among other speculative statements in my article about Raul Ibanez, I wrote the following:

Thirdly, it’s time for me to begrudgingly acknowledge the elephant in the room: any aging hitter who puts up numbers this much better than his career averages is going to immediately generate suspicion that the numbers are not natural, that perhaps he is under the influence of some sort of performance enhancer. And since I was not able to draw any absolute parallels between his prodigously improved HR rate and his new ballpark’s hitter-friendliness, it would be foolish to dismiss the possibility that “other” performance enhancers could be part of the equation.

Sorry Raul Ibanez and Major League Baseball, that’s just the era that we are in — testing or no testing.

The next morning, yesterday, I woke up to find that John Gonzalez of the Philadelphia Inquirer has taken me to task for the article with his own rebuttal titled “A cheap shot at Ibanez.” You can view Gonzalez’s article here.

In all, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-15 other sites linked to the Ibanez article here at MSF and at least one podcast discussed it for 5-10 minutes. I also began receiving hate mail from Philly fans calling me a “scumbag” and using the f-word like it’s a conjunction. (This does not really bother me though. I appreciate their passion and willingness to defend their guy. If someone had written a similar article about Jermaine Dye, though I like to think I would have used more tact, I would have argued with them too simply because he’s “my guy”.)

After exchanging a few pleasant emails with John Gonzalez about both of our articles, I contacted the Philadelphia Phillies to let them know about the article I’d written and to provide Midwest Sports Fans as a forum if Raul Ibanez or anyone from their organization had something to say in response. I was not sure if they choose to use Midwest Sports Fans as a forum for such a rebuttal, but I had not been trying to make nameless or faceless accusations completely out of reach from the one speculated against.

(And for the record, I’m a 27-year old professional writer and sports fanatic who contributes to Midwest Sports Fans, not a middle-aged guy banging away at a computer in my mother’s basement as was speculated in today’s Philadelphia Inquirer. But, since I speculated about Raul Ibanez, I don’t begrudge him for speculating about my existence. And like I hope to be about my steroid speculation, he was wrong about me. There is a lesson there somewhere I’m sure…)

Then this morning, upon arriving at the office and thinking the whole Ibanez thing was over, I opened up TweetDeck and noticed a decent amount of @JerodMSF messages from Philly fans such as this one: “The idiot who started it all was @JerodMSF. There was no “speculation” until he caused it with the stroke of a key.” The fan who tweeted that then sent me a link to today’s article in the Philadelphia Inquirer in which Raul Ibanez responds to my article.

Here are a few of the highlights:

“I’ll come after people who defame or slander me,” he said before last night’s game against the New York Mets. “It’s pathetic and disgusting. There should be some accountability for people who put that out there.”

“Unfortunately, I understand the environment we’re in and the events that have led us to this era of speculation,” he said. “At the same time, you can’t just walk down the street and accuse somebody of being a thief because they didn’t have a nice car yesterday and they do today. You can’t say that guy is a thief.”

“You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool – anything you can test,” Ibanez said. “I’ll give you back every dime I’ve ever made” if the test is positive.

“I’ll put that up against the jobs of anyone who writes this stuff,” he said. “Make them accountable. There should be more credibility than some 42-year-old blogger typing in his mother’s basement. It demeans everything you’ve done with one stroke of the pen.

“Nobody is above the testing policy. We’ve seen that.”

“It’s unfair because this story should be about how hard work, determination, and desire trumps chemicals and shortcuts,” he said. “That should be the message: desire, character, work ethic. But some guy who doesn’t know me – one idiot – says something like this. They should be held accountable. It’s cowardly.”

And now I would like to offer up a response of my own.

Here is what I feel bad about: that my post became a lightning rod for speculation about a guy who very well could be totally clean, about a player who I like and admire, and about a player who by all accounts is a high character, hard working, team first player. And I do agree that such speculation is unfair as it relates specifically to Raul Ibanez, who has said in the past that he has never used PEDs and who has never once been implicated in any investigation or failed any test (which I acknowledged in my post).

If someone wants to call me cowardly or idiotic for bringing the question up and adding another public forum to an in-progress debate that may have no basis beyond speculation, I’m fine with that. When you publish content for public consumption about public figures who are real people, there are potential consequences. I’ll be honest and say that I did not consider the potential fallout from the article. I had a hypothesis to start from (that objective analysis would show no reason to suspect Ibanez) and did not find enough statistical evidence to support my hypothesis. So I wrote what I felt. And I feel bad that it’s cast a negative light on one specific individual who most likely does not deserve it.

Plus, I’ve found more statistical evidence since I wrote my article that further explains why Ibanez might be off to such a great start. This article shows how much better Ibanez is hitting with men on base, a situation he finds himself in more often with Philly than he did with Seattle. And the podcast I mentioned above that discussed the story, On the DL, brought up another good point: a lot of guys who were implicated for steroid use in the past did so in a contract year. Raul Ibanez already got his contract, which means there is ostensibly one less reason for him to feel incentive to use PEDs.

Had I considered these two facts when writing my article, its speculative nature probably would have been a bit less…although, admittedly, not completely removed.

So I’ll accept some level of accountability and offer a sincere apology to Raul Ibanez for advancing a public debate that, in his specific case, is very likely unfair and perhaps even unnecessary.

However, I’m not accepting complete blame and accountability for being the person who started this. I just tried to do my homework and write a cogent response to speculation I had heard from other sources, and to comment on what I considered to be a thought-provoking and engaging topic that was already being discussed publicly and privately. The post did not even receive much pub or traffic until it was mentioned in the Philadelphia Inquirer yesterday, but based on the response and the comments the post has received, it seems to me to have proven to be both thought-provoking and engaging.

And that, to me, is what the blogosphere is about.

Midwest Sports Fans is obviously not part of the mainstream media, but rather is a public forum for grassroots discussion of topics that are of interest to sports fans in general, and topics that are not typically discussed by the MSM. As one of the main contributors of MSF, it is my job to direct the discussion to topics that are interesting and compelling and that are not always simple regurgitations of what readers could find elsewhere. In addition to our regular schedule posts that are aimed at simply providing useful information, I try to open up discussions that I might have with my buddies sitting around the table at BW3s.

That is where blogs and MSM sites differ, in my opinion: blogs are, by their nature, more interactive and more open — and oftentimes more controversial — and are more reflective of the sensibilities of real sports fans; whereas the MSM is usually more geared towards reflecting the sensibilities of reporters and informing sports fans of the facts by which we develop our thoughts and opinions. The best MSM sites have learned how to incorporate the interactive, fan-centric qualities of blogs and vice versa, but clear distinctions still exist.

When you look at the post about Raul Ibanez in particular, what it was was not, I suppose, was “safe”. It is not the type of story you would expect to read in the Philadelphia Inquirer. But much of it was based on facts and was an attempt to research and be objective about a subject, PEDs in baseball, for which emotion and subjectivity so often frame the discussion. And as you will see if you read the comment thread, I am clearly open to opinions that differ from my own, and to arguments that attempt to further debunk the Ibanez steroid speculation (my original aim in the first place).

Whether or not I accomplished my goal of being objective, thought-provoking, and compelling is up to the individual people who read it. From my standpoint, minus the anger that Raul Ibanez clearly feels towards the post, which I regret, I think it was a success.

I will stand firm by the statement I made yesterday in my own post’s comment thread and in the comment sections of other posts that discussed the Ibanez story: if Raul Ibanez, or any other player who is speculated about for putting up great numbers, is upset at the speculation, the majority of their anger and venom in my opinion should be directed towards their past and present peers who used steroids and PEDs.

I’m not coming out of the blue by speculating that an guy in his upper-30s who is putting up numbers that are outrageous by his own career standards might have used PEDs. In fact, there are so many examples of this happening over the past decade that it’s mind-boggling. This is not Raul Ibanez’s fault, which is why I even described my own post as potentially unfair in its title.

However, in the immortal words of Rasheed Wallace, it is what it is and it do what it do.

If you’re an aging baseball player and you explode out of the gate with a HR rate more than double your career average, a great many baseball fans are going to wonder whether everything is on the up and up. The testing policy recently instituted by Major League Baseball has helped to mitigate that somewhat, but the mental and emotional conditioning to suspect steroids that baseball fans underwent took 10-15 years to develop. It’s not going away in 2 or 3.

And there is another place where Raul Ibanez and other players like him who are caught in the steroids crossfire can direct their anger and frustration: at their own union and Major League Baseball. Those two entities allowed steroids and PEDs to consume baseball and sully the reputation of all players, even the clean ones, by not agreeing to a testing policy sooner. I certainly blame both of them for my guarded and suspicious mindset when I see numbers like what Raul Ibanez is putting up this year. And honestly it pisses me off a little bit, and it should piss of Raul Ibanez and other such players who vehemently claim their innocence and who value their reputations and obviously are forthright in defending themselves.

I also will not apologize for my article in totality because I did not write it simply to drum up speculation or to attract attention. In no way was I trying to be sensational for the sake of being sensational. I was just trying to write an objective, well-researched article. I was being completely honest in how I felt about a very nuanced and complicated situation.

Over the past two decades we have repeatedly seen the media come under fire for falling in love with, for instance, the Big Mac-Sammy story back in the day and not asking more questions. Now, when those questions are asked, they are “cowardly” and “idiotic”? I understand why Raul Ibanez would specifically consider me to be these things, and perhaps I picked a terrible example to speculate about, but in the grand scheme of things isn’t this what baseball fans and even players were clamoring for?

Maybe I’m falsely lumping my own post into an altruistic bucket in which it does not belong, but I thought we had all agreed that there was a new responsibility on the part of the media and fans to not just blindly sit back and allow Major League Baseball to pull the wool over our eyes.

(A quick aside: Look, for the record, I don’t consider myself part of the mainstream media by any means. I’m a blogger, and while the lines are becoming more blurred, I believe the distinction still very much exists – but that bloggers do have a responsibility to be accountable even when, like me, they are just creating second hand reports for a grass roots audience, and opinions that are based on the work of others and statistics in the public domain, and publish them for public consumption.)

In an effort to be more vigilant and suspicious, won’t our speculation sometimes produce false positives? If Raul Ibanez really is clean, then my post included speculation — which, I remind you, did not originate on Midwest Sports Fans — that will turn out to have no basis. But in many, many other past and perhaps even future cases, taking a player of the same age with similar statistics, the speculation would have proven true. So I may have erred in the player I chose to analyze and speculate about, but — and here was one of the main points of my article — is such speculation really that unjustified?

In the specific case of Raul Ibanez, perhaps it is. But for baseball players in general, sadly I think that it is justified. I’m sorry, but the way I see it the burden is on the players and league to regain the trust of the fans; it is not the burden of the fans to once again place blind faith in the players and a league that for all intents and purposes gave its implied approval for steroid and PED use to run rampant.

I would have defended Manny Ramirez against anyone. He was one of those guys that I honestly thought never took steroids. Well, that rug got pulled right out from under me (and, granted, also proved that the new testing system is starting to work). If Raul Ibanez never fails a test, my trust in him will grow. But I’m not just giving it blindly anymore. Perhaps I should have been more careful in publicly expressing such thoughts about a specific individual — I’ll grant you that — but in general, I am not going to offer a comprehensive apology for discussing speculation that did originate on Midwest Sports Fans (look here, here, and here), especially when my initial goal was to objectively explain away the speculation in the first place.

So, in summation, I offer my apology to Raul Ibanez for upsetting him with the words I published two days ago. As I’ve said numerous times since posting it, I am a big fan of Raul Ibanez as a person and a player, I considered him a huge sleeper coming into this season and expected better numbers from him this year, and he is one of the primary reasons that my fantasy baseball team is at the top of my league’s standings. I certainly have nor had no vendetta against him.

But to the larger issue of simply saying that I believe the curious ongoing speculation about the reason for his torrid start is justified, I will not apologize; and though not all baseball fans will agree with me, especially Philly fans in this specific case, I do think that the majority of baseball fans will be on my side. We’ll see I guess.

It is my sincere hope, however, that as more time passes we as baseball fans we can find ourselves placing more trust in Major League Baseball’s testing system and, in turn, more trust in numbers like what we are seeing from Raul Ibanez thus far in 2009. Though I specifically discussed Raul Ibanez in my post, it is this more general conclusion that I came to: that sadly, we are simply not a place where such trust has been reestablished…yet.

I look forward to the day when we get there.

Tags: MLB, Raul Ibanez, steroids

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  1. jc says:

    LoL, Ibanez called you a geek living in your parent’s basement. Pwned. The Philadelphia Inquirer and ESPN are complicitous in this whole debacle because they’re giving credence to the words spewed from a blogger. This fool is not a journalist, just some recliner jockey that likes to sit in front of his laptop and stir stuff up.

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  2. Rob says:

    Having watched Raul Ibanez for most of his career, his numbers this year are quite shocking but the one thing I have taken in to consideration with this sudden surge this late in his career – he’s probably seeing better pitches hitting behind some guy named Howard in the Phillies lineup. I wouldn’t believe he’s on steroids or PED’s no more than I would believe Ken Griffey, Jr. was. At the same time, I can understand why people would think that he was considering A-Rod’s admissions prior to spring training.

    Give Raul a break…until there is solid proof that he’s using steroids or PED’s, which I highly doubt any proof will ever be found, give it a rest.

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  3. Paul says:

    My opinion on the situation is this: Raul Ibanez got upset over a blog. The whole purpose of a blog is for a commentator to provide his or her opinion on the subject in which they are blogging. It is a form of new media that is completely objective, and Raul Ibanez would not have even known about it had it not been reprinted in the Philadelphia Inquirer. And the only reason the Inquirer picked up on it is to increase readership. Frankly, the opinion of a single blogger would not have the affect that it did if it was not picked up by a much larger syndication. I personally don’t think that Ibanez is guilty of using PEDs (he’s always been very consistent, and he has started off quickly in the past), but he should not have been ripping into the blogger; he should have been ripping into the previous testing system the MLB employed (or the lack thereof) and the users of PEDs in his sport that have tarnished the game (as Jerod mentioned in his rebuttal).

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  4. don says:

    you should watch what you say,you dumbass.karma is catching up to you,and you don’t even know it.oh yeah, the boss wants to see you in the basement,now!

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    Jordan Reply:

    @don, hey Don, read the original article and then comment.

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  5. ichiban says:

    Jrod you are an absolutely classless and pathetic moron. Raul has every right to sue your pathetic ass for slander, and it was great seeing you get blasted on OTL. It’s one thing to speculate about steroid use and write about it, it’s another thing to actually NAME OUT SPECIFIC NAMES. If you cannot differentiate between those two, then you’re simply an idiot.

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  6. sdg_in_mn says:

    @JRod –

    Just perhaps you might consider that the baseballs being used in the Major Leagues in 2009 have been ‘juiced’ — as opposed to previous years.

    There have been numerous years in the past where MLB has done exactly that to improve attendance, etc.

    Take a look at numerous other major leaguer’s who are hitting more h/r’s in 2009 than in previous years –

    Perhaps if you had really considered all the factors you might not have been so quick in ‘pulling the trigger’ — or ‘pointing the finger’ at one player, without stronger proof than just a ‘gut feeling’.

    I firmly believe that every blogger has a responsibility to be honest and truthful — a big problem for way too many internet folks these days.

    And, in addition, be ready to accept liability when one isn’t either or both — which, of course, is why you’re backpedaling just as fast as you can, right ??

    There’s an old saying that you ‘reap what you sow’ — so how do you like your crop?

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  7. James T says:

    While it is unfortunate for honest players that strikingly strong performances will raise speculation regarding performance enhancing drugs, they have only themselves to blame. Why haven’t players such as Ibanez been exposing and calling out players for cheating, both before and after it became a hot public issue? If players such as Ibanez do not publicly expose and call out — by name — players who cheat, then they have no right to get angry at fans for speculating about who is hiding behind the veil of clubhouse silence. If players collude with each other to keep the identities of cheaters anonymous, then they all rightly deserve scorn and suspicion for their suspect performances.

    Jamie Taylor
    Parrish, Florida

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  8. Rachel says:

    @JRod,

    I think you have a right to post what you did. Blogs are for opinons, not facts. I’m probley one of the few Phillies fans who does not like Ibanez. While he may have been angry, I felt that his comments where extremly out of line. Also to bring age into the discussion somewhat made my blood boil. With that being said, facts do have to come into play when you are quoting from an article.

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  9. Jrod hater says:

    Congratulations J-Dick for successfully pissing off and stressing out the first half MVP in the National League. Did you ever think that his numbers have raised because hes hitting in a lineup in between 3 MVP caliber players in one of the most home run friendly park in the nation? Probably sees better pitches hitting around chase utley and ryan howard than when richie sexson was his “protection” last year. I bet you’re real pleased with all the press this has gotten you.

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  10. John says:

    Ibanez reminds me of a gonzo in Arizona. I think Ken and the guy from the Philly Inq should not be so silly. Ken’s career seems to be based on his or nameless sources speculation of this or that and the other guy works in a dying medium. Who wants to here the old news of newspaper sports columnists. Really? come on, they just don’t like the competition. They talked to JRod like he is a 4 year old being scolded for poor table manners. They are the ones making a big deal out of it all, heck most people would have known about it if it wasnt for them.
    I speculation is helpful because it pushes the clean players to push for better testing and a cleaner league. It gets rid of the old ‘what happens in the club house stays in the clubhouse.’ Cry if you want but focus it towards the union and your coworkers.
    Those who say its from hard work? those are the same defenses of the rocket barry and everyone else who has been caught. It is those who work the hardest and are gym rats that are probably most likely to do it. I hear the word gym rat and i write that person of as a steroid user. Is it fair, no, but blame your peers.
    Jrod you should have taken them to task.

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  11. John says:

    PS he got awfully upset about being accused, if he is clean he should have laughed it off. The guy isn’t in the hall of fame, he is long in the tooth and he isnt going to be a celebrity pitch man. Who has less to lose from being accused? Taking ques from clemens bonds and palmeiro is a bad idea.

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  13. [...] Jerod Morris, the blogger, posts an evenhanded response to the unforeseen media swirl. He doesn’t even rip on Inquirer columnist John Gonzalez. Not surprisingly, with mass-media [...]

  14. John says:

    Ken Rosenthal writes about the Red Sox being too white.

    Let’sspeculate about race issues.Let’s insinuate that the current RED SOX organization is racist…

    Rapist over Roiders:
    ‘Bryant’s alleged offense was an act of PERSONAL INDESCRETION, not a reflection of his entire sport’(later edited out of article)

    hey ken, RAPE IS A HORRIBLE CRIME. Its near the top of worst crimes imaginable.

    Where is the accountability?

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  15. Ryan Gallagher from Philly says:

    DOUCHEBAG. I don’t know why your article got so much attention anyway. You’re a blogger, you are nobody. Douchebag

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  16. Tom says:

    There’s a way of speculating things. There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be suspicious of Ibanez. He’s 37, has barely seen NL pitching and is having an MVP type season. At the same time, Ibanez has a right to be upset. But that’s the nature of the game. I don’t buy that whole little rant of you can take my hair or piss. How about this, give us your hair and piss weekly through now to the end of the season. Remember Palmeiro waving his finger to congress? How’d that end? Most fans – Phillies fans especially, will herd like a bunch of sheep and say that it’s ‘’slander” because that’s what reports have told them. Some American’s can’t think for themselves. Some don’t mind putting the dots together though. Without evidence, we shouldn’t assume, but we shouldn’t be suprised if it comes out one day. Remember that A-Rod interview in late ‘07? He explicitly said he didn’t use. People acted like Canseco was slandering too when he said he wouldn’t be suprised if Manny used. Well? No offense to this site, but if this site could generate national media attention, it means you weren’t the only one thinking it. Words only have a way of spreading if it’s worth hearing. We all know we’re thinking it. It’s because of the lack of integrity in major league baseball. Not Raul Ibanez. If Raul wants to blame anyone, blame Bud Selig for allowing everyone to juice for like a decade. That’s what people are keeping an eye on him. Now it’s psychologically in his head though. I wouldn’t be suprised if his numbers declined just for that reason.

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  17. Tom says:

    You’re right. He’s a blogger. But you remember J.C. Romero? The guy who won game 5 of the World Series – the clinching game? Listen, it’s natural to be suspicious. No Phillies fan could deny that. It’s just the way the game is. Even though he likely isn’t using, it certainly does look like a realistic scenario. It’s horrible we have to assume that, but that’s just the way it is. If Nick Swisher’s power all of a sudden turned into Adam Dunn, you don’t think people would be giving a second look? Raul can’t sue for anything. It’s not even worth his time. The internet belongs to no one. It’s international property. It’s very loose. Unless it’s severely threatening, you could probably say anything you’d like. Some ”Midwesterner” sure got in his head though.

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    brian Reply:

    @Tom, J.C. Romero didn’t use steroids. When people hear “banned substance” they automatically jump to the conclusion that they took anabolic steroids. Romero bought a supplement over the counter at a GNC. The supplement did contain a banned substance but it wasnt listed on the supplement. That is why Romero tested positive and also why he filed a law suit against the company that makes the substance. He didn’t take steroids. Jrod has accused Ibanez of taking steroids, Romero didnt take steroids so these situations can’t be compared.

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    JRod Reply:

    @brian,

    I haven’t jumping in here to comment much, but since everything is slowing down now, this comment caught my eye.

    Direct quote from brian: “Jrod has accused Ibanez of taking steroids”.

    I don’t even know what to say. Why someone would come and comment on an article without even reading it is beyond me. If someone can find the place where I accuse Ibanez of using steroids, I’d love to see it.

    Brian, I appreciate your visit to the site and your willingness to participate in the discussion, but I’d appreciate it more if you would actually read the article that you are commenting on.

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  18. Pete D says:

    You took about 75 paragraphs too many, but you made your point in your mea culpa today. You’re both wrong, and both right. Good for you for getting the media’s attention, even a little ticker on ESPN today.

    That said, Raaaaauuuuuuuuuuulllllll

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  19. Mike says:

    If it turns out that you have an unusually productive two month period in your writing career, would it be all right for a blogger to openly speculate that you might be on amphetamines? I am sure that your writing career until this moment has been solid and productive, but suppose that you do have two outstanding months of sports writing. We live in a society where amphetamine use is not exactly rare. I will further assume that you are randomly tested and screened for amphetamine use, as baseball players are screened and tested for performance enhancing drug usage.
    If I were to write about you that your recently improved performance could be the result of the opportunity to write about some compelling sports stories, or that it could be the result of improvements in your workplace. Or, we have to consider the possibility that in a world where amphetamine use is more common than we would like it to be, you could be using an illegal drug. Now, because you have never had a positive test for amphetamine use, you would surely consider my public statement to be irresponsible, especially in a society where all are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

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  20. Julie. Philly PA says:

    JRod,

    Just a little advice. Before you go out of your way to put a man down, use FACTS not imagined fiction. If you prefer fiction take a walk down the yellow brick road and ask the wizard for a brain.

    It’s a sad, sad, sad, sad world we live in when you can’t give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but that’s not your fault. It’s the paranoid overwritten, “if we have nothing to say we’ll make S#!T up to fill up space…
    oh wait, that is what you did, guess it is your fault and the people like you that waste space on ridiculous ass-chumptions.
    Call TMZ, they’d love a guy like you.

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  21. SCOTT says:

    i saw your argument on ESPN OTL. I think it’s insanely hypocritical of the big network to come after you like this. You certainly didn’t violate your right to free speech…and if you did…ESPN is also guilty. Just last week on PTI Wilbon and Kornhieser speculated on whether Big Papi took PED because of his “slump.” At any rate, I’m a new fan of yours..funny how that works huh? I’m sure the exposure to ESPN didn’t hurt. I especially enjoyed Rosenthal in his ivory tower casting judgement on you for violating some mystical journalistic code….HE WORKS FOR FOX…define irony?

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  22. tool shed says:

    back to your mom’s basement, loser. your 15 minutes is about up.

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  23. xbobbyX24 says:

    Dude You are a Fuckin Jackass… How could you accuse a player of using roids without any proof.. He never failed a test and was never mentioned in the mitchell report. You scumbag… if I ever see or hear you are on the east coast I have the right to kick your ass for writing that shit about Ibanez.. You brought shame to blogosphere.. Way to go

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    Josh M Reply:

    @xbobbyX24, he didn’t “accuse” him of anything, if you actually read the article. I’m not sure how well educated you are, but perhaps take a second-or most likely first-glance at this article and you might see there are no accusations or finger pointing at PED’s as his ultimatum of logic. Anyone who disagrees with JRod based on his objectional view is either a hipocrite to say they have not subconsciously thought the same or looking to follow the mainstream flow to relinquish falsely-directed anger about the whole situation, which was construed by media.

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    BG Reply:

    @Josh M,

    I’m sure he’s educated enough to spell “hypocrite”.

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  24. bag o' cheese says:

    The blogger, whomever he is, is a pedarist…I have no evidence of this but he lives in the midwest and looks like one…

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    Jellis East Side Reply:

    @bag o’ cheese,

    Red Dragons!!

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  25. BG says:

    J-hole is more of an appropriate name for you, chief.

    You are completely careless in your “opinions” about Ibanez. If you even bothered to think for a minute, that the guys had consistenly put up solid numbers playing in Seattle, you would not have to introduce the “elephant” in the room.

    Maybe, perhaps maybe, he’s also benefitting from the fact that he’s hitting behind Howard and Utley, who are putting up all-star numbers as well.

    For you to throw this one out there because of the transgressions of guys like Bonds and Canseco, without having any sort of definitive proof, is just proof positive that bloggers like yourself have no place in the media.

    None.

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  26. [...] Morris of Midwest Sports Fans (the blogger wrote the original piece on Ibanez) recaps what has happened the last 48 hours pertaining to this subject: A couple of days ago my buddy posted on our fantasy [...]

  27. Talley says:

    No problem with your article at all. And actually if Ibanez and the Philly paper didn’t come out so publicly about it, I would never have looked at this site. They are the ones with egg on their face for stirring up this issue.

    You just wrote a blog and that not many people read. I don’t think you wanted “15 minutes”, but they gave it to you.

    Good article and keep blogging.

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  28. Greg says:

    Having lived in Seattle the last few years, I’ve watched Raul a lot and been a huge fan of his. I’d like to add a couple of other factors in for you to consider.

    First, Raul has always gone on some sort of a hot streak like this at some point in time during the season. It’s one of the reasons I’ve drafted him in my fantasy league pretty much every year for the last few years. When he heats up, he makes a great fill-in off the bench for someone going through a rough patch. It could be that this year it’s happening at the beginning rather than in the middle or end. I keep expecting him to taper off anytime now. Though, I’m keeping him in my fantasy lineup until he actually does.

    Second, any ballplayers will tell you that there is a significant mental element to hitting. They will also tell you that a teams problems in the clubhouse often carry over onto the field. The Seattle clubhouse has not been a very happy place for the last few years now. There was a lot of tension between players and managment and jealousy between fellow players. As a long-time team member and because of his veteran status, Raul was under a lot of pressure to be a leader in the midst of that chaos. He’s gone fro mthat situation to a clubhouse that just came off of a World Series winning season. The mental boost of that alone has likely played at least a small role in his success there.

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  29. Julie. Philly PA says:

    Well you were right Ibanez does like his juice. His favorite flavor…Big Apple

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  30. Coldfusion says:

    You’re an IDIOT accusing a fine baseball player by name for using PEDs. Forget the fact that Ibanez is playing for the WORLD CHAMPIONS. Forget the fact that the Phillies have an awesome hitting coach, and a manager who was the hitting coach for the Cleveland Indians when they did well several years ago. I don’t have an issue with you talking about the issue of PEDs. But, to personally point out a specific player WITHOUT any proof is illogical and irreverent to a player’s skills. Get out of your mom’s basement and find a REAL JOB and get a REAL life.

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  31. brian says:

    I think that Raul Ibanez’s fast start is due to the fact that he has taken up brazilian jiu jitsu(BJJ) to keep himself in shape. BJJ requires focus, hard work, dedication, and very good physical condition. Ibanez has showed all of those qualities so far this season. So I think that is the cause for Ibanez’s fast start, not steroids.

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  32. [...] else do I see any major blog writing about this.  Personally I believe this is due to the whole MidwestSportsFans fiasco and I don’t think anyone wants to touch it so they don’t get any hate mail.  Blogs [...]

  33. Ben says:

    You people can defend Raul Ibanez all you want. Nobody older than 30 is EVER going to get off to an uncharacteristically fast start in the major leagues for the next 20-30 years without people wondering if he’s on PEDs.

    Nobody.

    I don’t care if it’s the Pope or Mahatma Gandhi or anyone else with a supposedly “clean” past and character. I don’t care if the person is batting ahead of Babe Ruth or if they play in a matchbox (or the new Yankee Stadium, for that matter!). It sucks, but that’s the reality of the situation as player after player gets outed (A-Rod, Manny, etc.).

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