Rumor: Jay Cutler to the Browns for Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers?

This is going to be a quick one before shutting down WordPress for the evening (it needs aBrowns Trade Quinn and Rogers for Jay Cutler? break…it’s been a busy day!). I just caught word of a rumor on a Broncos blog that there could be a deal in the works between the Broncos and the Browns that would send Jay Cutler to Cleveland for Golden Boy Brady Quinn and Disgruntled Behemoth Shaun Rogers.

Here is the excerpt from the post at BroncosFreaks.com:

Well, ok, let’s say the Broncos really are shopping Jay Cutler. The deal with Cassel is moot at this point, the Broncos must be looking for new suitors. We understand that the Browns have an attractive option in place. Some Broncos fans will probably ‘freak’ when they hear such a ludicrous suggestion, but hey, were you any more shocked by Shanahan getting fired or Portis being traded?

Our source tells us the players involved are: Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers for Jay Cutler and the Broncos 3rd round draft pick.

I thought, absolutely no way when I first heard this, but, it makes sense on some level. The Broncos want to put a 3-4 defense in place in 2009, but have a huge hole in the middle of that scheme. There are no real NTs available in free agency, and the top name in the draft (BJ Raji) will most likely be gone at pick #12. Shaun Rogers has asked for his release or trade, wanting nothing to do with the Browns. Perfect match there, at least for the next couple years. Given that McDaniels and Xanders have gone after veteran defensive talent thus far (Dawkins,Goodman,etc) it makes sense on that level as well.

Now, Brady Quinn? We have heard that Mangini is not thrilled with the prospect of using Quinn. We have also heard that he covets a gun slinging, cannon armed QB to run his offense (a younger Favre), who wouldn’t really?

This is absolutely the only source that I have heard anything about such a rumor from. Naturally, my first instinct was to run over to the Orange and Brown Report to see if they had anything posted about this. They did not. So I contacted our friend Barry McBride, who runs the Rumor Mill over at the OBR, and he had not heard anything about it. He’s checking though. If there is anything to this, the OBR guys are the best bet to sniff it out. (For the record, no word over at PFT either.)

(Update 3/2, 10:20 PM: The word I am getting on this so far from people I trust is that it is most likely BS. It’ll get people talking, but there are too many cap implications for anything like this to happen without some major contract restructuring. It’s not impossible, but the cap realities would make it highly difficult to swing. If I hear anything else, I’ll post later.)

(Update 3/3, 12:00 AM: The OBR addressed the Cutler-to-Browns trade rumors at the Rumor Mill, echoing what we posted earlier, but in more graphic detail: the cap ramifications might just make your head explode.)

(Update 3/3, 12:24 AM: Last update of the night. PFT jumped on this story late this evening. Their site is down for maintenance right now so I can’t link to the post, but an excerpt was posted in the Browns forum at the Plain-Dealer website:

“Earlier on Monday, a league source advised us that the new regime in Cleveland — known lovingly in league circles as “ManKok” — would likely be interested in Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler as an alternative to Derek Anderson and/or Brady Quinn.

And there are indeed as of this posting an old-fashioned, unsubstantiated, poo-on-the-wall “Internet rumor” regarding a deal that would send Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers to the Broncos for Cutler and a third-round pick.”

Florio goes on to say that he has not heard anything specific, nor does he intend to considering the tight-lipped nature of the Browns’ new regime. But he closes by saying he considers it “a possibility.”

Link to PFT post about a potential Browns trade for Jay Cutler.

I will wait until there is something more substantiated about this rumor before analyzing at length. Nothing against the guys at BroncosFreaks; I’m sure they have reliable sources. But until our usual suspects of trusted sources reports something, I remain wary of this kind of blockbuster deal.

However, I will say this: it would not surprise me in the least to see some kind of whopper trade come completely out of the blue in Cleveland. We know that Eric Mangini and George Kokinis like to play things very close to the vest, so something tells me that if something big were to happen, they would be extraordinarily discreet about it.

Although, since the trade is already getting second-hand, unsubstantiated pub here at Midwest Sports Fans, I guess you could say the cat is out of the bag if the rumor of Jay Cutler being traded to the Browns for Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers is in fact true.

Stay tuned. In the meantime, what are your thoughts?

Though cap considerations likely preclude this particular trade from happening, hypothetically which side would you rather the Browns be on?

View Results

Loading ... Loading ...

This very well could turn out to be much ado about nothing, but it is an entertaining thought to kick around. How committed are you to Brady Quinn as the future of the Browns? How far gone do you think the relationship is between Shaun Rogers and Eric Mangini? Would you rather have Jay Cutler and a draft pick over the unproven Brady Quinn and the very proven by very disgruntled Shaun Rogers? Even if it’s nothing, the rumor itself raises some very interesting questions about the Browns’ future.

Update — 3/3, 7:31 am: After a night to sleep on it, and to realize there is at least some validity to the rumor if the OBR and PFT posted about it, and the PFT post got mention on SI.com’s “Truth and Rumors” section, here are my thoughts:

After having a night to think about this, and realizing that there certainly appears to be some legitimate smoke (even if the cap realities suggest there could never be a fire), a couple quick thoughts:

1 – I definitely like Jay Cutler over Quinn, not this is a shocking or insightful observation. Cutler has experience and a better arm, even if he is acting a little bit douchey in the aftermath of the trade rumors. Sounds like he just wants to get the hell out of Denver. And you know he would be motivated going to a new team to stick it to the Broncos.

2 – I do not like this deal if the Shaun Rogers of 2009 and beyond is going to be like the Shaun Rogers of 2008. However, if the Browns determine that the relationship is beyond repair, and that Rogers will sulk and loaf, it may be best to get something for him now.

3 – Don’t underestimate the value of a 3rd round pick. The Browns have tossed away drafts picks like skipping stones the last few offseasons, and adding more mid-round picks is a great way to cost-effectively build the depth of a roster that is not overly deep.

Regardless, I like the idea of a bold move like this. Cutler has extraordinary talent, and was not the reason why the Broncos have struggled the last few years. The majority of the fault for the Broncos not making the playoffs has been its defense. I don’t necessarily think our D is much better right now, but having Cutler gives us a clear #1 at the most important position on the field. Yes, we’d have to replace Shaun Rogers — and would not be able to before the 2009 season — but if he is going to be disgruntled anyway, let’s just clean house and get rid of as many of the attitudes as possible.

I can see the points on both sides, and am not averse one bit to keeping Quinn and Rogers. But trading Kellen and then a bold move like this might help to light a fire under the rest of the players in the locker room. NFL players who are uncomfortable and know that the status quo is always in question seem to play with more focus and edge. We need a little more focus and edge in Cleveland, and we need bold moves to reverse a decade of futility.

Like any big move, a deal like this could backfire. But I’d rather strike out swinging for the fences, with the chance to hit a home run, than take a walk and most likely still get stranded on first.

Update — 3/3, 1:12 PM: This is seriously the last update on this particular post.  For those still making their way here, we just posted another item, based on some analysis from Barry McBride at the OBR, throws a little water on the fire.  The cap ramifications of Jay Cutler for Brady Quinn and Shaun Rogers deal for the Browns would be quite severe, and will likely prevent it from taking place — if it was ever even a legitimate possibility to begin with.

Jay Cutler photo courtesy of AP Photo/Ed Andrieski



About Jerod Morris

I love words. I write for Copyblogger and founded MSF, The Assembly Call, & Primility. I practice yoga, eat well, & strive for balance. I love life. Namaste. Say hi on Twitter, Facebook, & G+.

Comments

  1. Cutler to titans for bullock and young.

  2. being a life long broncos fan. This move would just be the biggest stab in the back for all of broncos country. if this happens mcdaniels better get the hell out of denver or else the fans would be happy to show him the door. i was pretty pissed when they fired Shanahan, but this would easily top that. there is absolutely nothing wrong with the offense mcduffus, god it’s just so irritating

    This comment was altered slightly by a moderator for spelling and to conform with our guidelines.

    • @Aldo, it doesn’t sound like Josh McDaniels’ tenure in Denver is getting off on the right foot. Alienating fans and the franchise QB is never a good way to go. He better win.

      • @JRod, Anyone who thinks the offense was working really does not know much about football. Check out the Broncos stats for turnovers inside their own 50. Bottom 10 in the league. Check out the ppg. Bottom 14 in the league. Check out INT’s thrown. Bottom 10 in the league. Check out dropped passes. Top 5 in the league. Check out ints thrown inside the 20’s on either side of the field. Bottom 5 in the league.

        What the heck are you basing your opinions off of the #2 NFL ranking that everyone keeps talking about for yards per game? haha seriously that is how you measure success.

        • @Robert, good points on Cutler. I admit, my initial reaction to the Cutler talk was clouded far too much by his start to last season and his performance against the Browns. Other than that, I didn’t know enough about him and like him less and less the more I learn. You’re right about the Broncos offense, and the consistent douchebaggery Cutler has shown makes me very happy that the Cutler-to-the-Browns rumors never had any validity in the first place.

  3. Midnight Writer says:

    Jrod! You stole my thunder! But you got there first, so fair is fair.

    But I have been very nervous about the possibility of Mangini trading Quinn since Day One of the NomangeniusKoko Regime.

    Don’t expect any news to come from Cleveland since Dumb and Dumber have been holed up in Berea running the asylum and making decisions while boss Randy is across the pond cheering on his soccer team.

    But what really scares me is that Belichick is being all nice and civil to Pioli who Lerner turned down for Browns general manager because Pioli and Mangini could not stand each other after Mangini finked out Belichick and Spy Gate.

    If Belichick is anything, he is vengeful so he is probably open to helping (within reason) any team except for Cleveland.

    Now that Pioli has Matt Cassel and Mike Grabel from Belichick, I see that Kansas City will soon make a run for it, while Cleveland, with its draft (as in crap-shoot) picks will surely look like Clowns. (don’t smirk Mr. Delusional Czech)

    So, far Mangini has ignored free agency, a major mistake. Very disappointed the Browns didn’t go out and get Houshmansada and Ray Lewis.

    Once again, I am mourning the Browns forced move to Baltimore and letting Cleveland keep the name — without the heart and soul of what the Browns have represented.

    What has happened in Cleveland over the past 10 years makes me wish we would have picked a new name and continued to mourn the loss of the “Baltimore Browns.”

    As a history buff and sports nut, I do not like the term “the Browns came back” because it is not accurate, revisionist history.

    Back to Jay Cutler: Although he came from behind in Cleveland last year to defeat the Browns, I am not interested. A big arm does not translate to victories, since Denver is 17-23 with Cutler (according to WKNR-AM 850).

    But it would fun to see Cutler mouth off to Mangini on the sidelines.

    Also heard mention of another rumor –the Browns shopping Braylon Edwards. Heard John Clayton on ESPN’s Mike and Mike mention Braylon’s name as a possible wide receiver to help another team.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Nomangenius-Koko traded Quinn. Just another player the so-called “New Browns” mishandled, misused, underused, etc.

    Good luck, Brady. Actually, you’ll only need it if you stay in Cleveland.

    • @Midnight Writer,

      I think a lot of Browns fans share your trepidation of the current regime. At the end of the day, I guess we’ll see what the product is like on the field in 2009. I don’t necessarily mind them passing up the big $$$ free agents early on, because we went that route before and it did not get us anywhere. Perhaps being more particular about who we sign and for how much will signal a positive change for the future, and lead a roster with more depth.

      As for Braylon, I just posted about that one too. Those rumors have certainly been floating around. Sounds like a contract extension and a heart-to-heart to see if he and the new regime are on the same page is the first order of business. If not, I think they will certainly look to see what they can get with BE heading into the final year of his current contract, minus an extension.

  4. I’m not sure what this means about our small but incrementally increasing reach here at MSF, but this post received a link in the official Bone Thugs-n-Harmony forum:

    http://btnhboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189256

    You have to be a subscriber though, so I can’t access the thread.

    I would truly have been honored had the link happened two days ago…on the first of the month.

  5. I would love to see Cutler come to Cleveland and start.

  6. As far as I’m concerned this trade rumor sounds bad. The Browns wasted all of those draft picks for Quinn and if you were to trade him without giving him a chance as a starter, after you told him he would be the starter this year, it justs makes us look bad. I really don’t have a problem trading Rogers, you could get a sold first round pick for him, otherwise he won’t play here because he doesn’t like Mangini. I aslo say we should draft Crabtree because he would be a solid starter, plus it would be a backup plan for Baylon Edwards, who might end up being traded anyway.

  7. Brady Quinn should stay browns fans are not going to be happy about the trad. the browns head coach is so stuped.

  8. [url=http://antabuse3.us/]travel to canada can i buy antabuse there[/url]

  9. Hello! I just would like to give a huge thumbs up for the great info you’ve here on this post. I will probably be coming back to your blog for a lot more soon.

  10. I am usually to running a blog and i really appreciate your content. The article has really peaks my interest. I’m going to bookmark your website and maintain checking for brand spanking new information.

  11. I do believe all of the concepts you’ve offered on your post. They are really convincing and can definitely work. Still, the posts are very brief for starters. May just you please extend them a bit from subsequent time? Thank you for the post.

  12. Attractive section of content. I just stumbled upon your site and in accession capital to assert that I acquire in fact enjoyed account your blog posts. Anyway I’ll be subscribing to your augment and even I achievement you access consistently fast.

  13. Thank you a lot for giving everyone an exceptionally breathtaking opportunity to read articles and blog posts from this blog. It really is so beneficial and full of a lot of fun for me and my office colleagues to visit your blog not less than three times in one week to study the new guidance you have got. Of course, I’m certainly impressed concerning the remarkable creative ideas served by you. Selected 1 ideas in this post are unequivocally the most beneficial we have had.

  14. magnificent points altogether, you simply gained a emblem new reader. What may you suggest in regards to your publish that you just made a few days ago? Any sure?

  15. Of course, what a splendid website and illuminating posts, I will bookmark your blog.Have an awsome day!

  16. Fotografia de una novia el dia de su boda, con su vestido de rosa clara en el hotel nh aranjuez antes de dirigirse a la celebración de su boda en la finca puente largo de aranjuez, madrid. Fotografia natural de boda en la que se muestra a la novia ya preparada con su precioso vestido de rosa clara en el hotel de aranjuez. Mario Rubio: Mi primera réflex cayó en mis manos con motivo de mi primera comunión.

  17. I was suggested this web site by my cousin. I am not sure whether
    this post is written by him as nobody else know
    such detailed about my difficulty. You’re wonderful! Thanks!

  18. Wow that was odd. I just wrote an incredibly long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t show up. Grrrr… well I’m not writing all that over again. Regardless, just wanted to say excellent blog!

  19. Hi there, I discovered your blog by way of Google at the same time as looking for a related topic, your site came up, it seems great. I have bookmarked it in my google bookmarks.

  20. very good good…this post deserves almost nothing …hahaha merely joking: S …nice write-up: P

Trackbacks

  1. Today’s Crazy Ass Rumor < Rumor Central says:

    […] comes from a Broncos blog called “Broncos Freaks”, and you can find it here. Or you can find it here, courtesy of our friends at Midwest Sports Fans who pointed us to this a while […]

  2. Buy and Sell says:

    Buy and Sell

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a couple of unrelated information, nonetheless really really worth taking a search, whoa did a single understand about Mid East has got extra problerms also […]

  3. Goziyan.com says:

    Goziyan.com

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a number of unrelated information, nonetheless truly worth taking a appear, whoa did 1 discover about Mid East has got extra problerms as well […]

  4. Technorotic.com

    […]Here are a number of the web sites we advocate for our visitors[…]

  5. Technozan.com

    […]the time to study or go to the content or web-sites we have linked to beneath the[…]

  6. More Info says:

    More Info

    […]please pay a visit to the web sites we comply with, like this one, as it represents our picks through the web[…]

  7. Premium loose tea

    […]the time to read or visit the content material or web pages we have linked to below the[…]

  8. êóïèòü Àíàëîã ëþìèíèñöåíòíûõ ñâåòîäèîäíûå ëàìïû Ò8 25 W 5000 Ëþìåí LM

    […]although web sites we backlink to below are considerably not connected to ours, we really feel they may be truly worth a go via, so have a look[…]

  9. ñâåòîäèîäíàÿ ëàìïà Ò8 1200ìì 5500K IP41 ðåôëåííàÿ

    […]The facts mentioned inside the report are several of the very best out there […]

  10. 60ml e liquid

    […]Here is an excellent Blog You may Find Interesting that we Encourage You[…]

  11. ben sim only says:

    ben sim only

    […]check below, are some totally unrelated sites to ours, having said that, they’re most trustworthy sources that we use[…]

  12. velcro hooks says:

    velcro hooks

    […]always a massive fan of linking to bloggers that I enjoy but don?t get a good deal of link enjoy from[…]

  13. body massage services

    […]check beneath, are some completely unrelated internet sites to ours, even so, they’re most trustworthy sources that we use[…]

  14. dentists in maryland

    […]just beneath, are quite a few totally not associated web sites to ours, even so, they may be certainly really worth going over[…]

  15. Tree Removal Service Grand Rapids MI

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a number of unrelated data, nonetheless genuinely really worth taking a look, whoa did a single study about Mid East has got additional problerms as well […]

  16. poet says:

    poet

    […]usually posts some very intriguing stuff like this. If you?re new to this site[…]

  17. http://www.blogcatalog.com/category/art/how-to/

    […]The details talked about inside the report are a number of the best obtainable […]

  18. stephen willis

    […]please take a look at the internet sites we adhere to, like this one particular, as it represents our picks through the web[…]

  19. Cleaner Brooklyn

    Home and apartment cleaning in Brooklyn

  20. home cleaning new york

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a few unrelated information, nonetheless definitely worth taking a look, whoa did 1 master about Mid East has got a lot more problerms too […]

  21. http://www.blogcatalog.com/category/living-leisure/automotive/

    […]below you will find the link to some internet sites that we feel you’ll want to visit[…]

  22. valentines day sayings

    […]Every once inside a whilst we decide on blogs that we read. Listed below would be the newest internet sites that we decide on […]

  23. shoulder bag says:

    shoulder bag

    […]Here are several of the websites we advocate for our visitors[…]

  24. The JumpManual Review

    […]just beneath, are several completely not associated internet sites to ours, however, they’re certainly really worth going over[…]

  25. Louisville Carpet Cleaners

    […]always a huge fan of linking to bloggers that I like but really don’t get a good deal of link like from[…]

  26. svetodiodnye lampy ?27 10 W 3000 lumen moschnye

    […]although websites we backlink to below are considerably not connected to ours, we really feel they are really really worth a go through, so have a look[…]

  27. movie stream,

    […]Sites of interest we have a link to[…]

  28. VTC en direction des Aéroports de Paris

    […]one of our visitors a short while ago advised the following website[…]

  29. physiotheraphy

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine several unrelated information, nevertheless genuinely worth taking a look, whoa did 1 learn about Mid East has got additional problerms at the same time […]

  30. voip billing software

    […]check beneath, are some totally unrelated web sites to ours, having said that, they may be most trustworthy sources that we use[…]

  31. khun thailand

    […]one of our visitors not too long ago recommended the following website[…]

  32. Best Car Seat 2017 Buyer Reviews Guide

    […]Sites of interest we have a link to[…]

  33. Email to PDF says:

    Email to PDF

    […]we prefer to honor lots of other world wide web internet sites around the internet, even though they aren?t linked to us, by linking to them. Below are some webpages really worth checking out[…]

  34. PNR says:

    PNR

    […]usually posts some incredibly intriguing stuff like this. If you are new to this site[…]

  35. cloudHQ says:

    cloudHQ

    […]just beneath, are numerous totally not related sites to ours, on the other hand, they may be certainly really worth going over[…]

  36. mongolia hiking tours

    […]The facts talked about inside the article are some of the top available […]

  37. kupit prozrachnye lampy e40 svetodiodnye 4500 Ê analog 100W À60

    […]although websites we backlink to below are considerably not associated to ours, we feel they may be essentially really worth a go by, so have a look[…]

  38. social media marketing

    […]The facts talked about in the write-up are a number of the best obtainable […]

  39. home air conditioning Tampa

    […]check beneath, are some entirely unrelated internet websites to ours, on the other hand, they are most trustworthy sources that we use[…]

  40. pay-to-play hokkeinyi draft in America studentcheskiy

    […]we came across a cool web page that you simply could appreciate. Take a appear in case you want[…]

  41. Non invasive prenatal tests

    […]here are some hyperlinks to web pages that we link to simply because we consider they are really worth visiting[…]

  42. DNA testing while pregnant

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a couple of unrelated information, nonetheless truly worth taking a look, whoa did a single discover about Mid East has got extra problerms at the same time […]

  43. canberra it support

    […]The information and facts mentioned in the article are some of the most effective accessible […]

  44. opory osvecheniya ocinkovannaya 45 OGK

    […]below you will discover the link to some websites that we think it is best to visit[…]

  45. Email Productivity

    […]below you?ll locate the link to some web pages that we think you’ll want to visit[…]

  46. best badges says:

    best badges

    […]the time to study or visit the subject material or web sites we’ve linked to beneath the[…]

  47. CMS 5 star rating

    […]one of our guests recently advised the following website[…]

  48. management of assaultive behavior certification los angeles

    […]very couple of web-sites that occur to be comprehensive beneath, from our point of view are undoubtedly well really worth checking out[…]

  49. Pharmacovigilance jobs

    In one place, experts get a quality checked and transparent overview of all Life Sciences jobs that we can find on the internet. BrightOwl is the place to be for Life Sciences experts looking for a job. We believe in the perfect mix of technology and a…

  50. what is modafinil

    […]usually posts some really fascinating stuff like this. If you?re new to this site[…]

  51. is modafinil addictive

    […]below you will discover the link to some websites that we consider you need to visit[…]

  52. paleo diet menu plan

    […]Here are a few of the websites we recommend for our visitors[…]

  53. Online dating advice

    […]Here is a great Blog You might Discover Fascinating that we Encourage You[…]

  54. Locksmith Winter ParK FL

    […]although websites we backlink to below are considerably not connected to ours, we feel they are basically worth a go by way of, so possess a look[…]

  55. Blog says:

    Blog

    […]check beneath, are some totally unrelated web sites to ours, nonetheless, they are most trustworthy sources that we use[…]

  56. london tantric

    […]here are some hyperlinks to web pages that we link to simply because we consider they may be really worth visiting[…]

  57. sucsesful weight loss

    […]very couple of web sites that occur to become in depth below, from our point of view are undoubtedly effectively really worth checking out[…]

  58. http://www.cabinetstogo.com/product-category/bathroom-vanities/all-inclusive-vanities

    […]Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine a couple of unrelated information, nonetheless truly really worth taking a appear, whoa did one study about Mid East has got more problerms at the same time […]

  59. dryer vent fires

    […]we like to honor quite a few other online sites around the web, even when they aren?t linked to us, by linking to them. Underneath are some webpages really worth checking out[…]

  60. Dryer vent cleaning La Grange

    […]we like to honor many other world wide web websites on the web, even when they aren?t linked to us, by linking to them. Under are some webpages really worth checking out[…]

  61. QXCI says:

    QXCI

    […]that would be the finish of this article. Right here you?ll discover some sites that we believe you?ll value, just click the hyperlinks over[…]

  62. Individual tax return

    […]Sites of interest we’ve a link to[…]

  63. Loyalty Cards

    […]although internet websites we backlink to below are considerably not related to ours, we really feel they’re truly worth a go as a result of, so have a look[…]

Speak Your Mind