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Crean v Painter I – What We Learned About Purdue’s Present and IU’s Future

by Jerod @ 2009-02-21 1 Comment Email Post

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E'Twuan Moore and Matt Painter | IU-Purdue box scoreThis morning, because I’m insane, I woke up at 5:30 and went to the office. I did get some actual work done, but quickly decided to pop open the trusty blog and do a preview of today’s Indiana-Purdue game, the first meeting in what should be a great rivalry between Tom Crean and Matt Painter.

The game is now over, with the Boilermakers winning 81-67. My prediction was a 4-point win for the Boilers, I think they were favored by 22, and it ended up at 14. I guess that sounds about right. Here is the IU-Purdue box score if you’re interested.

While I am never happy about a loss, especially to Purdue, I think Indiana represented itself it well by playing hard, looking competent for stretches on the offensive end, and not allowing Purdue to ever run away with the game. Until E’Twuan Moore’s three-pointer with about 3:30 minutes left, the Hoosers were hanging around between 6-10 points down, just a few quick threes away from making it a game. But Moore’s three was a dagger that pushed the Purdue lead to 12 and effectively ended IU’s hopes of a comeback.

Here are a few observations and things we learned today:

1 – It is an absolute travesty that IU and Purdue are only playing once this year

This point is really too obvious to spend a lot of time worrying about. Does the Big Ten conference just stick its head up its own rear when it decides on the schedule? Certain rivalries should always be played twice a year, end of story. Indiana should always play Illinois and Purdue twice a season, no questions asked. I’m not even saying anything else because it is the one thing that IU and Purdue fans can agree on. There should be a meeting in Assembly Hall. The Hoosiers might not win, but they certainly could make it a competitive game. Now that this game is over, the fact that IU and Purdue are only playing once this year is really starting to piss me off.

2 – If Purdue shoots well in March (and Hummel is healthy), they can make a tournament run

I am impressed with this Purdue team. They struggled out of the gates in the Big Ten season but are playing really well right now. They play suffocating man-to-man defense and have solid continuity on offense. And when E’Twuan Moore is shooting the ball well from outside they become especially difficult to defend. The big caveat is Robbie Hummel’s health. I don’t think they have enough multi-dimensional players to compete with the top teams in the nation if Hummel is out, as evidenced by their 1-3 Big Ten record without him. With Hummel in the game, however, he provides that one guy with size who can do a little bit of everything. JaJuan Johnson | IU-Purdue Recap and Box Score

3 – JaJuan Johnson is talented, but will never realize his potential until he learns how to focus

Full disclosure: This is the first full Purdue game I have watched this year, so Boiler fans can correct me on this one if I am wrong; but JaJuan Johnson really seems to lack focus. He played a very good game today though. 14 points, 10 boards, and 5 blocks. He showed range on his jumper, obvious athletic ability, and has undeniable talent. Yet, he made some really careless turnovers and got caught out of position a number of times on defense. And while I love Tom Pritchard and Kyle Taber, they are not in the upper echelon of big men that Johnson will have to face come March. If Johnson increases his ability to focus, he could be a monster as a junior and senior. He’s so talented, he may be anyway.

4 – Indiana has a team full of role players, but two guys have emerged as pieces to build around for the future

Nick Williams, Devan Dumes, Matt Roth, and Malik Story all bring unique individual abilities to the floor, and all will be solid players in the cream and crimson for the next year (Dumes) or three (the others, all freshmen). However, on a good team that can contend for a Big Ten title, they should be bench players who fill specific roles playing 10-15 minutes a game. And I don’t think that is a knock on them at all. They are getting tons of playing time as freshman because IU had so little coming back this year, and will be better players because of it. But each has critical deficiencies that put ceilings on their potential:

  • Nick Williams is too short to be a guy who lacks quickness and handle
  • Devan Dumes is not consistent enough as a shooter and plays out of control with the ball
  • Matt Roth is a non-factor if he is not getting open looks from 3, and lacks quickness to get open if defenses focus on him
  • Malik Story is simply average from a skill standpoint and athletic ability standpoint

With all that said, all four of these guys have tremendous heart and because of it they have been more productive than their respective talent and skills would suggest they’d be. They have also continued to fight in the midst of an awful season and will forever have my appreciation and respect, as well as that of Hoosier fans everywhere. And while they will improve moving forward, these are the kind of guys who should be like Pat Graham, Brian Evans, and Todd Leary on the 1993 team: solid role players who are not asked to do more than they are capable of doing and who contribute to a winning team.

There are two guys on this year’s team, however, that are proving to be future starters that IU can build around: Tom Pritchard and Verdell Jones.

Tom Pritchard - Indiana | IU-Purdue Box Score and RecapPritchard has been pretty consistent all season, though his play dipped a bit recently. I thought he played well today though. He was active offensively, made some tough shots, did a solid job on the boards, and played well with fouls in the second half. He finished with 12 points and 8 boards, which I think will be a similar line to what he’ll put up as a senior when he plays Purdue. Pritchard has obvious deficiencies in foot speed, overall athletic ability, and free throw shooting — only one of which he can really do anything about. But he is a physical presence with decent skills and a high basketball IQ. He can be a Matt Nover-type contributor who you can pencil in for 10-14 points and 8-10 boards every night. He is almost that right now as a freshman.

In terms of improvement, no Hoosier has improved more from the beginning of the season to now than Verdell Jones. Honestly, at the beginning of the season I was wondering why we gave him a scholarship and why he was playing so much. He looked scared, he turned the ball over left and right, and had no physical toughness. Over the last few weeks, Jones has shown off his offensive abilities and become a much more poised leader with the ball in his hands. He still does not dribble especially well and makes lazy passes, and he simply has to get stronger, but 16 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists in his first trip to Mackey is nothing sneeze at.

I thought Verdell was outstanding today. For the first time all season I thought he looked completely comfortable on the floor. He made some beautiful passes, did a great job of pulling up for the 10- toVerdell Jones - Indiana | IU-Purdue Recap and Box Score 15-foot jumpshot, and led an IU offensive attack that played pretty well, all things considered, against a team that really knows how to lock down on defense.

Verdell Jones also has one huge advantage that cannot be taught: height. At 6′5, he is a tough matchup for most guards in the Big Ten. He has gotten eaten alive though by shorter, quicker players this season when he is careless with the ball; but as his ball-handling and decision-making improves he is going to become a really tough matchup on a night-in, night-out basis. With talented players Maurice Creek and Christian Watford, among others, coming in at the guard and wing spots next season, this year’s freshmen will have more competition for playing time. Verdell Jones is proving that he has the talent to be a starter on a top-flight Big Ten team. If he can continue grow physically, as a ball-handler, and in the mental aspect of the game, we could be looking at a player who puts up stat lines like today’s on a nightly basis.

5 – The IU-Purdue rivalry is going to be really fun again

In the late 80s and into the mid-90s, the IU-Purdue rivalry was awesome. Calbert Cheaney against Glenn Robinson. Brian Evans against Cuonzo Martin. AJ Guyton against Chad Austin. And of course, Bob Knight against Gene Keady. Over the last decade or so, while the game is always exciting, it has lacked that extra bit of star power and top-level performance. A major part of it has been the two programs’ transition from legendary coaches to the guys at the helm now. Another part of it is a huge lull in the two programs’ ability to keep the top in-state talent at home. And honestly, it has been rare recently for both teams to be really good at the same time.

But I think with Tom Crean and Matt Painter settling in as the long-term stewards of Indiana and Purdue basketball, this rivalry is on the right track towards becoming one of the elite rivalries again on a yearly basis.

Painter has done a great job of building a solid nucleus around in-state players. Tom Crean is bringing some good Indiana kids in next year and supplementing them with top-flight national talents like Creek and Watford. Give IU one more year to settle in next season, and then I think these two programs are poised to be in the upper third of the Big Ten for the next decade. And with these two coaches we know that the games will be extremely physical and hard fought.

For once, I am not completely despondent after a Purdue loss. I have resigned myself to the pitiful fate of seeking moral victories in every loss. The state of our program demands it. Today, the Hoosiers showed that they have two starters and four solid bench players ready to go for next season. Assuming three or four of the new guys are ready to step in and contribute right away, we can look forward to a still young but much more talented team next season that should be ready to compete for a Big Ten title again in 2011.

And hopefully, God willing, moral victories will no longer be an option.

Tags: Big Ten Basketball, christian watford, College Basketball, devan dumes, e'twuan moore, Indiana Hoosiers Basketball, iu-purdue rivalry, jajuan johnson, malik story, matt painter, matt roth, maurice creek, nick williams, purdue boilermakers basketball, Robbie Hummel, tom crean, tom pritchard, verdell jones

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  1. JD says:

    Let’s be honest about this team, and the future of IU under Tom Crean.

    Jones has progressed nicely, and will be a nice role player for future years. Better guards supposedly on the way will relegate the Third Edition of Verdell to the position of sub.

    Dumes is a thug. Plain and simple, he should not be wearing an IU uniform post Sampson. If Crean had any nads, he’d dump him.

    Story is a wasted scholarship. Might do well at ISU or Taylor. Not a smart player/has no basketball intelligence.

    Williams brings nothing to the game at this level. And for those who keep saying he’s the next Vaden, you’re right…he needs to be playing for Mike Davis at UAB, not IU.

    Pritchard has scored because he’s been the go-to guy. He’s also the only post presence we have. He’s as good right now as he’s going to be. He’s slow, his footwork is horrible, and he’s going to foul out of 70 of the games he’s in when the other team goes inside a lot. Again, a nice role player and future sub if the talent gets better.

    Matt Roth is the worst defender in the Big 10, and has no chance of ever improving. Like Pritchard, he’s slow, his footwork is weak, and the only thing he brings to the game is he can hit if he’s open. The next time he creates a shot will be the first.

    Moore, God love him has a ton of heart, but you’re already seeing him lose playing time. He can’t guard, he can’t shoot, hell…there’s not much he can do. But what the heck, let him hang around since he bleeds Cream and Crimson.

    And that leads us to Tom Crean, the ugliest and shortest cheerleader in the game today. He may get IU to some 4th, and maybe an occasional 3rd place finish, but he will not take IU to the heights of an Izzo, a Ryan, a Painter, a Weber. It will not happen and it’s time to be honest about it. One win in the NCAA’s and done, not making it every other year, NIT losses, and no Big Ten titles is what Crean will bring to IU for the four-five years he’s here.

    He’ll run your average clean program, with the occasional screw up like Dumes this season, most of his kids will go to class though no one is talking about those basketweaving courses being offered (and it’s not just at IU, but it’s become IU since the arrival of Mike Davis and his players), and several of them might even graduate.

    But for Crean to put a constant contender on the court, he’s going to have to be one hell of a lot better coach at IU than he ever was at Marquette where basketball was the only show in town. Crean, if one’s honest, is a fairly decent coach who says the right things, who constantly acts like a fool, who just isn’t good enough to take IU back to the Knight years, unless one thinks Knight’s last seven years were good.

    As for this team playing hard, sure they do. But do they play hard AND smart? Not in my lifetime or yours. Basketball dumb is sitting in Bloomington. Not one of the current crop of Hoosiers would start on any other Big Ten team. Not one.

    Crean picked them, talked about how good they’d be, how excited he was to get them. Hell, Williams was even a Crean recruit who followed him to IU, and we’ve seen how great a pick that was.

    For my fellow IU fans, don’t hold your breath waiting on greatness from this group or Tom Crean. It ain’t gonna’ happen.

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