Comments on: Scott Pioli-Kirk Ferentz Combo a Possibility for Cleveland Browns http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/ A sports blog by and for Midwest Sports Fans Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: We can build on this: The end of the Herm Edwards era « jockr http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3734 We can build on this: The end of the Herm Edwards era « jockr Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:07:56 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3734 [...] his son enrolled at the school–but it’s an interesting possibility. Here’s a good article about how he’s good friends with Pioli. I think that Ferentz is better suited for the college [...] [...] his son enrolled at the school–but it’s an interesting possibility. Here’s a good article about how he’s good friends with Pioli. I think that Ferentz is better suited for the college [...]

]]> By: Tavian B http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3133 Tavian B Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:10:10 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3133 Ferentz is coming off a 9-4 season and royal butt whipping of a decent SEC team. His team is returning most of its starters and has a damn fine running back to replace Shon Green. The QB will be much more mature and consistent than he was at the beginning of this season. The future remains bright for Ferentz at Iowa. Why screw it up by going to Cleveland and cranking out a couple of 6-10 seasons and putting up with Kellen Winslow's temper tantrums before getting fired. Ferentz is coming off a 9-4 season and royal butt whipping of a decent SEC team. His team is returning most of its starters and has a damn fine running back to replace Shon Green. The QB will be much more mature and consistent than he was at the beginning of this season. The future remains bright for Ferentz at Iowa. Why screw it up by going to Cleveland and cranking out a couple of 6-10 seasons and putting up with Kellen Winslow’s temper tantrums before getting fired.

]]> By: Marc http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3080 Marc Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:14:39 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3080 The other few good coaches: Barry Switzer, Oklahoma, Dallas Tom Coughlin, Boston College, Jacksonville/N.Y. Giants Steve Mariucci, California, San Francisco/Detroit (He was successful at San Francisco. I won't blame Detroit's poor record on him because I don't think anyone can win in Detroit) The other few good coaches:

Barry Switzer, Oklahoma, Dallas
Tom Coughlin, Boston College, Jacksonville/N.Y. Giants
Steve Mariucci, California, San Francisco/Detroit (He was successful at San Francisco. I won’t blame Detroit’s poor record on him because I don’t think anyone can win in Detroit)

]]> By: JRod http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3056 JRod Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:32:57 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3056 @John Beckord, thank you very much for your reply. As you know if you read my post, I am skeptical about Kirk Ferentz as a potential head coach for the Browns. However, I have to say, Ferentz sounds very impressive based on what you say about him. If the Browns are going to dip into college, Ferentz is the guy I'd want them to get. Even over Bob Stoops. I just think that Ferenz's disposition would make him more likely to be successful. I'm still not sold on the idea, but I appreciate you telling us Ferentz is really like, just in case there is a press conference in a few days announcing him as the new coach. @John Beckord, thank you very much for your reply.

As you know if you read my post, I am skeptical about Kirk Ferentz as a potential head coach for the Browns. However, I have to say, Ferentz sounds very impressive based on what you say about him.

If the Browns are going to dip into college, Ferentz is the guy I’d want them to get. Even over Bob Stoops. I just think that Ferenz’s disposition would make him more likely to be successful. I’m still not sold on the idea, but I appreciate you telling us Ferentz is really like, just in case there is a press conference in a few days announcing him as the new coach.

]]> By: John Beckord http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3051 John Beckord Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:30:38 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3051 Below are some personal observations about Ferentz. I've been a Hawkeye fan since attending Hayden Fry's first game at Iowa in the early 70's. 1. Ferentz is a solid, honest person with real integrity. 2. His coaching skills are many but his ability to develop talent, especially lineman, is the thing that stands out to me. 3. Lots of coaches/schools talk about the "family atmosphere" around their football program. But looking in from the outside for 10 years, it is real at Iowa. Ferentz has a knack for motivating players to buy into the team concept...and I really don't think he would decide the talent of players like T.O. is worth the cost (in terms of teamwork) of somewhat less-talented players who overachieve within his system. 4. He sets high expectations for the program and expects much from his players. Outsiders may wonder about disgruntled fans calling for his job during the previous two campaigns when the Hawks essentially fell to 500. Well, he brought that on by making it clear he expected 8+ win seasons consistently. He would not be satisfied with average play in Cleveland. [note: he has bowl wins against Florida, LSU and South Carolina from the supposedly superior SEC] 5. Finally, Ferentz comes off as a smart, friendly, average guy. No phony, arrogant crap. He also has tried to connect the program to the community & to the state. He and his wife have generously donated huge sums to the UI Children's Hospital. I hope he stays at Iowa. But if he ends up in Cleveland, you will learn how good he is. Below are some personal observations about Ferentz. I’ve been a Hawkeye fan since attending Hayden Fry’s first game at Iowa in the early 70′s.
1. Ferentz is a solid, honest person with real integrity.
2. His coaching skills are many but his ability to develop talent, especially lineman, is the thing that stands out to me.
3. Lots of coaches/schools talk about the “family atmosphere” around their football program. But looking in from the outside for 10 years, it is real at Iowa. Ferentz has a knack for motivating players to buy into the team concept…and I really don’t think he would decide the talent of players like T.O. is worth the cost (in terms of teamwork) of somewhat less-talented players who overachieve within his system.
4. He sets high expectations for the program and expects much from his players. Outsiders may wonder about disgruntled fans calling for his job during the previous two campaigns when the Hawks essentially fell to 500. Well, he brought that on by making it clear he expected 8+ win seasons consistently. He would not be satisfied with average play in Cleveland. [note: he has bowl wins against Florida, LSU and South Carolina from the supposedly superior SEC]
5. Finally, Ferentz comes off as a smart, friendly, average guy. No phony, arrogant crap. He also has tried to connect the program to the community & to the state. He and his wife have generously donated huge sums to the UI Children’s Hospital.
I hope he stays at Iowa. But if he ends up in Cleveland, you will learn how good he is.

]]> By: JRod http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3039 JRod Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:43:20 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3039 @Big10fanstuckinBig12country, thanks for the comment. Doesn't it suck being a Big 10 fan down here in Big 12 country? I feel your pain. That said, I certainly do not think the speculation is BS. I'm only reporting what I'm reading. And pretty much every major Browns media outlet is saying that Pioli's #1 choice to be head coach wherever he goes is Kirk Ferentz. I have also heard that one of the hang-ups keeping a deal from already being done is that Pioli wants Ferentz and Lerner isn't sure he wants a college coach. I agree that there are compelling reasons why Ferentz would stay at Iowa...and he very well may. But his comments after the Outback Bowl certainly seemed to leave the door wide open. Why would he not just say "I am staying at Iowa" if there was nothing there? I think because he is a class guy who does want to lie, so he talked all around it, without denying the truth: that there is a chance he might leave. And I don't buy for a second that he'll use the NFL interest to leverage for more money. He already got a contract extension in 2006 and is one of the highest paid coaches in college football. He may be the coach at Iowa next year, it would not surprise me. But make no mistake: if Scott Pioli is a GM in the NFL next year, there is a very real possibility that Kirk Ferentz is his head coach. @Big10fanstuckinBig12country, thanks for the comment. Doesn’t it suck being a Big 10 fan down here in Big 12 country? I feel your pain.

That said, I certainly do not think the speculation is BS. I’m only reporting what I’m reading. And pretty much every major Browns media outlet is saying that Pioli’s #1 choice to be head coach wherever he goes is Kirk Ferentz. I have also heard that one of the hang-ups keeping a deal from already being done is that Pioli wants Ferentz and Lerner isn’t sure he wants a college coach.

I agree that there are compelling reasons why Ferentz would stay at Iowa…and he very well may. But his comments after the Outback Bowl certainly seemed to leave the door wide open. Why would he not just say “I am staying at Iowa” if there was nothing there? I think because he is a class guy who does want to lie, so he talked all around it, without denying the truth: that there is a chance he might leave.

And I don’t buy for a second that he’ll use the NFL interest to leverage for more money. He already got a contract extension in 2006 and is one of the highest paid coaches in college football.

He may be the coach at Iowa next year, it would not surprise me. But make no mistake: if Scott Pioli is a GM in the NFL next year, there is a very real possibility that Kirk Ferentz is his head coach.

]]> By: Big10fanstuckinBig12country http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/01/scott-pioli-kirk-ferentz-cleveland-browns/#comment-3038 Big10fanstuckinBig12country Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:37:58 +0000 http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/?p=1125#comment-3038 All this speculation about Kirk leaving Iowa is BS! If you look at the roster you will see his son is on the team and probably will be a starter next year. Anybody who thinks he is going to leave Iowa for the NFL are complete idiots! Why would he leave when he has everything there and an op to couch his son. He has already stated in the past he does not want to leave until his kids are finished with school. If his son is a freshman there at Iowa, he's probably not going to leave for at least 3 more years. That leaves him in his mid to lower 50's. How many NFL teams would want a new head coach in the NFL at that age? All this speculation about Kirk leaving Iowa is BS! If you look at the roster you will see his son is on the team and probably will be a starter next year. Anybody who thinks he is going to leave Iowa for the NFL are complete idiots! Why would he leave when he has everything there and an op to couch his son. He has already stated in the past he does not want to leave until his kids are finished with school. If his son is a freshman there at Iowa, he’s probably not going to leave for at least 3 more years. That leaves him in his mid to lower 50′s. How many NFL teams would want a new head coach in the NFL at that age?

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