Comments on: Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer – Who is the Better Choice for the Browns?

By: Bill Dunford

Bill Dunford — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:43:24 +0000

It’s tough to say between the two, but if I were Randy Lerner I would sell the farm on getting them both. Look at Miami after a 1-15 season!!!

Bill Cowher has the passion and he learned alot of his character traits from Marty. Bill was on the sideline in 1985-1988 with Marty and the chemistry worked great. Kansas City was strong with both of them and Pitt had developed into Marty when he got to Pitt. I favor Marty because he’ll come back with the drive to win the SB, but Bill knows the Steelers better than anybody.

But Marty was 7-2 against Pitt with the Browns and Cam Cameron is the OC in Baltimore and I’m pretty sure Marty knows him pretty well.

So in closing i say. Sell the farm, get Marty and Bill. Marty can GM for 8 more years and Bill can rule the AFC North just as he did in Cleveland.

And don’t get lost in this Rooney HorseSh*t. Rooney’s owned the team in the 80′s when Marty and Bill where in Cleveland and we owned the Steelers then.

You think they hate Bill when he takes the job? When Bruce Arians was in Cleveland in 2003, Bill Cowher’s Defense man handled him. And Dick Labeau was trained by Cowher, and Cowher was trained by Marty back when he was a player for Marty in Cleveland.

So you think they hate Bill now? Wait till he owns them after 09!!! And if any of you Pittsburgh Pansies cry about “HOW CAN BILL GO TO CLEVELAND, YOU TRAITOR BOO HOO HOO!!!”

Just Remember 2 things. If Rooney would have paid him what he wanted in 2006 he would have stayed, and the other is, He played and coached the Browns first and learned what he knows from Marty “Bill even said that 2 years ago before a San Diego game”

So Randy Lerner… You’ll make you money back, just spend whatever you need to get them both for 09, and we fans will pay the ticket price back to you. We love the Browns but they suck right now and can get much better!!!

Just look at Miami

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:34:05 +0000

@JRod, I forgot about Tice’s lack of discipline at Minn. – good point. And the Browns need a ton of discipline. I’ll stick with Schwartz as my first choice, however. Both Cowher and Marty would make the team better but if they can’t win the big one then it’s just another tease that I am sick of. Between Cowher and Marty, I would side slightly with Marty just because he hasn’t won a Super Bowl and I’m sure still desperatly wants to if given the chance. He would know that this would be his last chance to do it. I just don’t thnk Cowher has the passion or drive to try and do it again. I think it would all be about the money and since he would get the money no matter what he does, it wouldn’t matter.

By: JRod

JRod — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:10:17 +0000

@Dave, your point is well taken, and certainly the historical perspective is persuasive. Schwartz at Tennessee does seem like a good coach, and Jim Harbaugh, Tony Sparano, and Mike Smith are proving this year that first-time head coaches can succeed. I’m not so sure about Mike Tice. He had a boatload of talent in Minnesota but they always seemed to underachieve and play poorly in big games, not to mention the utter lack of discipline inherent in the organization at the time. Perhaps he has learned from his mistakes, but I’d rather not take the chance on finding out in Cleveland.

I think if the Browns have a chance to grab Bill Cowher, it would be hard to pass up. The guy is proven, and even though they one one Super Bowl, he got there multiple times and made 7 AFC title games. He may not turn things around in one season to get Cleveland to AFC contender status, but I still think going with such a successful known commodity would be a good move for the Browns.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:00:00 +0000

Neither Cowher or Marty are the answer. The goal is to WIN the Super Bowl. Every past Super Bowl winning coach who has gone to another team has never duplicated that success. Ditka, Jimmy Johnson, Parcells, Gibbs and Shula to name the ones I can think of all failed with the next team. It took Cowher 15 years to do it with the Steelers and then only with significant help from the officials. Also, of the last 11 winning Super Bowl coaches, 8 were former coordinators who were promoted to head coach. The Browns need the RIGHT young, intelligent and well organized coordinator to step in and turn this team around. I would strongly consider Schwartz (Titans defensive coordinator) or Mike Tice (Parcells loves him).

By: Football Fanatics

Football Fanatics — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:20:59 +0000

Cowher can be a long term fixture then Shotty. He’s younger and has more experience in the division.

By: Midnight Writer

Midnight Writer — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:10:54 +0000

Jrod,

Excellent research and well-written articles. But the photos really do the job! I would have to give the dorkiest award to Marty for the mullet he is sporting compared to the dorky photo of Cowher who lookes like one of the nerds in Revenge of the Nerds. (Timeless classic).

Ironically, Marty spoke about his intentions concerning the Browns head coaching job on Serius Radio and said he didn’t think he would be interested in the head coach job — but that he would be interested in a management job under Browns new head coach Bill Cowher!

Well, that kind of solves it, doesn’t it?

And if you had the category of most stubborn: Both of those tough, hard-working men of German-ethnic stock would scorre high. But Marty would edge Cowher out since he is absolutely unmovable when it comes to including family members in his hiring. In Cleveland, it was his brother, Kurt and this time, it is offering up his son, Brian.

Luckily, Bill Cowher has three daughters who do not want a job in football.

But what about Brian Billick? The Browns wsanted to hire Billick, then settled for Chris Palmer when the Browns name was attached to the expansion team named the Browns. However, Billick went coached the Browns after they got to Baltimore and was renamed the Ravens.

Billick has said he did not like the idea of being the first coach of the new expansion team — and who could blame him? Nearly 10 years later the Browns in Cleveland are still f—ed up!

Midnight Writer

By: Much Needed Reality Check

Much Needed Reality Check — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:23:08 +0000

Is there really even a difference?

You don’t how badly I want to see Cowher land in Cleveburg, so I can enjoy watching you all suffer from the same Marty-Ballitis I did for years with spittin’ Bill. Yes, I wish you the same pain that comes from every early playoff exit, as the sphincter tightens and the coach plays “not to lose” yet again.

Wait a minute, didn’t you all suffer that same fate back in the ’80s with Marty? Some folks never learn.

PLEASE Cleveland, take Billy Cowher. Please!