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Could Michael Vick Join the Cleveland Browns in the Dawg Pound in 2009?

by Jerod @ 2008-11-26 8 Comments Email Post

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I wrote a post earlier today that outlined 10 potential replacements for the injured Brady Quinn. MSF writer Joe Argabright left a tongue-in-cheek (I think) comment about the Browns signing Michael Vick that got me thinking.

Why not?

Michael Vick entered a guilty plea on November 25th to the state charges of dogfighting against him in Virginia. This plea clears the way for a probable early release from prison for Vick and opens up the possibility of him playing in 2009. Of course, he is still suspended by the NFL, so that would have to be lifted first. But if Pacman Jones and Chris Henry can be given seventh and eighth and ninth chances, then why shouldn’t Vick be given a second?

Will Michael Vick Play in the NFL in 2009?The fact of the matter is that no matter how much blustering or deliberation occurs before it is official, Michael Vick will be reinstated by the NFL; and most likely for 2009 if he is out of prison. I am sure that Roger Goodell is still pissed that Vick initially lied to him about his involvement in the dogfighting, but Mike Brown of the Bengals continues to lie to everyone that he is committed to winning and he still owns his team. If there is a place in the NFL for Mike Brown, shouldn’t there be a place in the NFL for Mike Vick?

So the next question becomes, where would Michael Vick sign? The conventional wisdom suggests teams with horrid QB situations like Detroit and San Francisco would be first in line. The Oakland Raiders and Dallas Cowboys can’t be ruled out because Al Davis and Jerry Jones have a history of signing outlaws. And I have heard the Patriots bandied about as a possibility, if Vick is willing to play a position other than QB. Can you imagine a Wildcat-style formation with Vick as a change of pace with Tom Brady if Vick becomes a QB to RB/WR convert?

But what about the Cleveland Browns? I have not ever really seen them listed as a possibility, mainly because everyone was sure the Browns had one of the most solid QB situations in the league coming into 2008: a 2007 Pro Bowler and a 1st round pick both on the roster.

Well, Derek Anderson’s Pro Bowl season looks more like a mirage with every game that he finishes with a sub-50% completion rate, and there is no telling how good Brady Quinn is, or if Quinn will suffer any recurring trouble from his finger injury. It all sounds pretty routine; but anytime surgery and a Browns player are mentioned in the same sentence, we have to hold our breath until the player returns home from the hospital without getting the-infection-that-shall-not-be-named.

For shits and giggles, let’s analyze how well the Browns and Michael Vick would fit together.

Potential Fit #1: Both Michael Vick and the Cleveland Browns have a history of making dogs suffer.

The Browns, of course, have made their loyal Dawg Pound supporters suffer for years. There were the blown chances against the Broncos in the 80s, the team’s move to Baltimore in the 90s, the ineptitude of the early 2000s, and then the high hopes that developed in 2007 only to come crashing down in 2008.

And Michael Vick, well, there is really no need for further expatiation of how he has made dogs suffer.

Our good friends at Flash Sports Tonight actually discussed the connection in one of their Flash Reports last year during the Vick trial:

Plus, imagine the plethora of ironic and diabolically humorous T-shirts, signs, and assorted memorabilia that would be launched with the association of Michael Vick and the Dawg Pound.

Would they be in poor taste? Absolutely. Is this a PR nightmare that the NFL would most likely want to avoid like the plague? I would imagine so. For this very reason, I would think that Roger Goodell might step in if Vick-to-the-Browns ever became a realistic possibility. I’m not kidding.

But, on the flip side, it could also offer many opportunities for Michael Vick to both literally and figuratively express remorse and reverse his reputation as a dog hater and abuser. Some legitimate ideas:

The Michael Vick Dawg Pound Patrol could scour the streets of Cleveland for stray dogs, put them in shelters, and then try to find them homes as quickly as possible. Season ticket holders could be given discounts if they sign up for shifts.Could Michael Vick Join the Dawg Pound and Play for the Browns in 2009?

The Michael Vick Dawg Pound Foundation could be set up so that Vick could give a certain amount of money to local animal shelters or other charities every time he contributes to a touchdown by passing, running, or receiving. And instead of any outlandish celebrations that draw attention to himself, he could simply jump into the Dawg Pound, give the ball to fans, etc, as an act of goodwill towards the Dawg Pound and, metaphorically, to dogs in general.

The Michael Vick Don’t Dawg It Award could be given each week to the Browns player who plays the hardest and never quits in the previous week’s game. Vick himself could present the award each week at the first practice. With all of the talk this season about how Browns players purportedly quit during games, this could help to incentivize players to play hard and make sure that effort is at the forefront of everyone’s mind.

And think about it: if the players that were the subject of the “they quit” comments by Jamal Lewis and Josh Cribbs had been dogs in Vick’s dogfighting operation, Vick would have beaten or killed them. (Luckily for these unnamed players, Romeo Crennel is much more mild-mannered.) This 180 degree flip for Michael Vick, celebrating effort as opposed to physical punishment for failure, could be a powerful and cathartic move for him.

(Editor’s Note: Thanks to the Sports Hernia for the Dawg Pound pic above. Hopefully they don’t mind me using it.)

Potential Fit #2: Michael Vick the receiver, if he switched positions, would likely have trouble catching passes and staying healthy after a two year layoff.

Yet another reason why Mike Vick would fit in with the Browns!

Cleveland is blessed with the immensely athletic and talented Braylon Edwards. However, as Braylon has proven this year, he likes catching balls about as much as Barack Obama likes the BCS and the Cubs. In addition, the Browns employ speedy Donte Stallworth on the other side of Edwards. Stallworth is talented, but it is quite possible that his bones are made of pretzel and his joints, muscles, and tendons are actually baked rubber bands.

An Edwards-Vick-Stallworth receiving duo would look amazing in pregame warmups – until the game started and Stallworth was deactivated, Edwards dropped every other pass, and Vick emerged as a less reliable target than Syndric Steptoe.

Perfect fit, right!?

Potential Fit #3: What if Michael Vick became more of a QB-RB-WR hybrid who was able to move all over the field, lead a zone-read Wildcat-type package, and take reverses and handoffs?

Well, he’d probably add a ridiculous level of dynamic play-making ability to the Browns offense. And with the whole three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-Lewis-or-five-step-drop offense that the Browns have utilized this season being woefully undynamic, Vick’s addition could be a welcome sight.Would Browns Coaches Utilize Michael Vick Effectively?

And, undoubtedly, the Browns coaches would be smart enough to get the Vick the ball, right?

Hmm…therein lies a problem. We have two guys, Josh Cribbs and Jerome Harrison, who have been pretty successful this season when they are creatively utilized by the Browns. Unfortunately, the Browns coaches have seemed allergic to getting them the ball consistently.

How much could Vick really help out in this area if he were to, say, rush for 40 yards on 4 carries and then never get the ball again? But that would never happen with the Browns, right? Right!?!

I feel your pain Jerome Harrison. Damnit this season has been frustrating.

Potential Fit #4: What about Michael Vick as a possible QB? Could he actually be an improvement?

The Browns signed Derek Anderson to an extension before the 2008 season and have Brady Quinn locked in for a few more years. Could Michael Vick really start over these two guys?

The biggest knock on Michael Vick throughout his NFL career has been his accuracy as a passer. For his career Michael Vick is a 53.8% passer. By comparison, Derek Anderson’s completion percentage this season is 49.0%. Brady Quinn’s is 50.6%. So, essentially, the only negative about Vick the QB would actually lead to an improvement over what the Browns have now.

Interesting.

I know what you are thinking: take out the drops of Braylon Edwards and both DA and Brady would have completion percentages over 75%. You’re right, but still; the numbers are what they are. And Michael Vick would have the ability to tuck it and run instead of firing it downfield to Braylon, thus eliminating many of the drops and wasted plays.

And can you imagine how defenses would try to defend a loaded backfield formation of Vick, Jamal Lewis, Jerome Harrison, and either Josh Cribbs or Jason Wright? I mean, if we’re only going to complete 50% of our passes anyway, why not just start running the ball 50 times a game, throw in some option/zone-read, and just let Vick take 4 or 5 chances downfield a game. He may not be accurate, but he can still fling it 60-70 yards pretty effortlessly. Braylon Edwards catches one out of every five passes thrown his way, so that would be good for one big play in the passing game per week. It’s about what we are getting now.

Plus, we would be able to control the clock longer with a more sustained commitment to a ground attack. This would allow our defense to be fresher, and we all know how the Browns defense has worn down at the end of games.

Will there be a Michael Vick Era of Browns Football?Wow, just typing this is already getting me excited for the Michael Vick era of Browns football – for which there isn’t even a legitimate rumor.

Whatever ends up happening with Michael Vick when he is released from jail, it will be fascinating to see unfold. My personal opinion is that Michael Vick committed despicable acts and lied about them, and he got exactly what he deserved. However, he has now paid his debt to society and, I think, to the NFL.

Thus, when Mike Vick is released from jail, I think the market forces of the NFL should dictate whether he plays or not. If someone wants to sign him, let him play. He does not deserve further punishment, and from a fan’s perspective it would be great to have one of the most exciting players back in the league. (And someone else in every fantasy league would reach for Vick three or four rounds too early in drafts, thus marginally my chances of winning!)

Would it be a good move for the Browns to sign Michael Vick? That is obviously debatable. I went into the post thinking it would just be an attempt at irony and humor; but now that I’ve written it, I’m not so sure the Browns shouldn’t kick the tires on Vick once he’s cleared to play.

With the right plan in place for how to use him, Michael Vick could be a very valuable addition to a team that has some talent, but could always use another game-changing playmaker.

It is waaaaay to early to start seriously thinking about the possibility of Michael Vick in a Browns uniform, but don’t you at least have to admit that the possibility is intriguing?

If the Browns have the chance, should they look into signing Michael Vick?

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  1. Joe Argabright says:

    Wow JRod. I’ve only made it halfway through this article before I can’t stop laughing long enough to read further. Did you say that if any Browns players quit or gave up early that Michael Vick would beat or kill them? Wow, man, wow. If I didn’t have such a good sense of humor or worked for PETA I would be pissed right now. But it’s all good. To me that is absolutely hilarious, so I’ll keep reading…

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  2. Joe Argabright says:

    Very, very intriguing… There’s an obvious chance of backlash from fans or well, anybody, but unless you already have Manning, Brady, Brees, or Warner, why wouldn’t you want to sign this guy?

    We have forgotten all too quickly what kind of an impact that Michael Vick can have on a football game. He has never had a great receiver to throw to and was still effective. Even if he doesn’t have a receiver, he gives defensive coordinators nightmares trying to think of ways to stop him, or at least keep him in the pocket. And let’s think about this: Michael Vick’s #1 target every year and every game was tight end Algae Crumpler. Crumpler is decent, but can you imagine if he has Kellen Winslow at tight end? Suddenly Cleveland is not scared of the Ravens D, or the Steelers, or hell, anybody and KII loves being a Brown. With Vick, Lewis, KII, BrEd, Cribbs, and Harrison, Cleveland would be (gasp!) offensively complete?

    And as far as backlash goes, there is nothing America (or sports fans) love more than giving a guy a second chance and seeing him redeem himself. We have the shortest memory and forgive all transgressions when someone is playing well, but are the first to bring up something from ten years ago if it relates to a recent failure. It doesn’t make any sense but it’s true. If Michael Vick is reinstated and allowed to play in 2009 and I was Cleveland’s GM, I would be doing everything I could to sign him. It just fits. And just think about the possibilities of draft picks you could trade for with Anderson and Quinn. Both still have value, so it’s the best of both worlds for the Browns. They don’t lose anything this side of consistency, could stand the chance to gain a lot, and at least would be a lot more exciting to watch than they are now.

    Wow, I was only half serious when I made the comment, but now I’m thinking about what color #7 Browns jersey I want for Christmas next year. Hmmmmm…

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  3. JRod says:

    Interesting points Joe. I can’t say I’m ready to start shopping for a Browns #7 yet, or that I think you bring Vick in to be your starting QB, but a guy with that kind of athletic ability would have to have some value — if you use him correctly.

    There would almost certainly be a backlash, and I’m not sure that a Midwest community like Cleveland would be the best place for Vick initially. Now, if were to play well and do things in the community to amends, he would eventually be forgiven and embraced.

    But, if you do bring in Michael Vick at QB, I think you have to get rid of Brady Quinn. Quinn wants to and believes he should be a starter in the NFL — and I think he’s justified in feeling that way — and he has waited patiently to get his chance. Now that he has it, how would he take to having Michael Vick brought in and muddying the Browns’ QB waters even more? I think Derek Anderson’s personality is much more suited for a guy who can be a backup and come in and win you games. If Vick is your QB, I think the controversy is much less if you trade Quinn and have Derek there as an insurance policy.

    But would you want Vick over Quinn? At this point, I wouldn’t. Sure, Quinn struggled a bit, but they were his first few games as a starter. I think he can be a pretty good QB and there is no way we’ve seen enough to definitively say he is or isn’t the guy. I’d rather go through growing pains with Quinn than living through Michael Vick working off the rust.

    And with all that said, all I can think about is how fun it would be to watch Vick running around in a Browns jersey scrambling for huge chunks of yards or flinging the ball downfield to Braylon. I don’t know how many games we’d win, but we’d sure be fun to watch.

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  4. Drew says:

    I still think he will end up on a NFC South team so that he can play the Falcons twice a year. The Bucs and the Panthers seem obvious, the Falcons WONT take him back and Drew Brees is the other starting QB in the divsion, and he is clearly the best of them.

    Yet I’d still love to see Vick running around in black and gold. And it could happen. We all know how much Coach Payton loves to use trick plays. Imagine Vick and Reggie Bush in the backfield. If anything, Vick would be a much better WR double pass option than Lance Moore, who threw a pick on monday night.

    I dont think Vick would work in Tampa. Him and Gruden doesnt sound like a good idea, and he wouldnt have any weapons on offense, just like his stint in Atlanta.

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  5. Midnight Writer says:

    Michael Vick? Just what the city of Cleveland needs: Another felon on the streets.

    If Mr. Dogshit Vick ever showed up at Cleveland Browns Stadium, Big Dawg could lead the charge of the entire dawgpound, followed by all of the mean, stray and hungry pit bulls living on garbage and junkyard scraps at the Central Police District Impound Lot — and sic Vick.

    On the other hand, fans have been talking about ridding the Browns of the old top dawg personna — since the team has no more “top dogs”, so to speak — and return to the Brownie mascot.

    If MVPee came to Cleveland to play, it is doubtful he and the dawgs could co-exist.

    Given that premise, it is far more doggy-doo-able for Vick to quarterback for the Cat Species teams such as the Lions, Panthers, Bengals or Jaguars.

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  6. Joe Argabright says:

    Can you imagine Vick and Calvin Johnson on the same team? Detroit cannot be put out of the picture because they have got to start taking some risks if they want to keep their ballclub in Detroit. I doubt the Panthers would grab him, but you never know. He ripped apart their great defense twice a year for a while, so if anyone knows his value it would be the Panthers. It would be fun to see him throwing to Steve Smith. I don’t think the Bengals are through with Carson Palmer. He’s a really good QB going through a rough season of injuries. They were right to sit him for a while till he’s recovered and grab a high draft pick. And the Jags? As a Colts fan I would hate to see him twice a year, but the few times we played against Vick are lightning fast D kept him in check. I can’t see him getting along with DelRio either.

    The only teams that I see even considering Vick would be the Raiders, 49ers, Cowboys, and Vikings. The Raiders are the perfect fit personality wise, but they have a lot of money wrapped up in Jamarcus. The 49ers need a quarterback badly, but I don’t know if he’s the right fit for a Mike Martz offense. The Cowboys have proven that they will take anybody regardless of their past, so you can’t rule them out even if they do have Tony Romo. If the Cowboys did sign him (which I think will be the most likely scenario), I think that they would use him as their wildcat QB, or line him up in the backfield with Romo. The Cowboys would be scary with all those weapons on the field at the same time. Any combination of Vick, Romo, Barber, F.Jones, R.Williams, Witten, and Mr. Getcha Popcorn Ready would be the most talented group of players on the field in my memory. Yikes. As far as the Vikings go, anything is better than their current QB situation. Having Vick and Peterson in the same backfield is potent, but I don’t know if the Vikings would go for it. They let go of Culpepper for the love boat incident, and that’s way more forgivable than what Vick did.

    It’s a lot of fun to speculate what’s going to happen once Vick is ready to go, but we have to remember that he is still contractually obligated to the Atlanta Falcons, so they will have the first say. They could give him the Stephon Marbury treatment.

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  8. Bob Nickel says:

    I AM A TRUE BLUE FAN OF THE BROWNS. I CONSIDER MYSELF A DAWG AND I WOULD FIGHT FOR VICK. I WAS A FAN WHEN CLEVELAND DID NOT HAVE A TEAM, AND I WILL ALWAYS BE A FAN. I FEEL CLEVELAND NEEDS TO MAKE A REAL EFFORT TO GET VICK. YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOD AND A FOOTBALL COACH, GOD KNOWS HE IS NOT A FOOTBALL COACH. UNLESS YOUR TALKING ABOUT WOODY HAYS AND THEY COULD BE ONE IN THE SAME. GOD FORGIVES AND SO DO THE DAWGS. I CAN’T WAIT FOR FOOTBALL SEASON TO START AND I WOULD BE THRILLED TO SE VICK IN A BROWNS UNIFORM. IMAGINE THE WILDCAT OPTION WE WOULD HAVE WITH VICK.

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