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NCAA Football 09: Manual Recruiting in Dynasty Mode

by KVB @ 2008-08-20 89 Comments Email Post

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Ncaa Football 09Hey sports nerds. I have gone through a couple of years in my dynasty with The Ohio State Buckeyes and I think I have a grasp on the new recruiting in EA Sports’ best effort to date. Recruiting is overly comprehensive and unless you want the computer AI to do everything for you, you should keep reading. By the way if you let the computer recruit for you it also means you will not get the best class possible. Note: This is a “strategery” that will work for a powerhouse, since I have time for one dynasty at this point. My examples will be based off of being tOSU out of Columbus, OHIO.

 

Setting up your success in the preseason:

In your preseason you have many tasks before week 1 of the college football season. One of them is filling your recruiting board (up to 35 slots) with players that you will want to recruit this year. Your team will have a few positions listed as immediate needs so make sure you get someone good (or someone) because placing a walk-on high in the depth chart is a recipe for failure.

Find guys who are already highly interested in you. Keep out the guys who maybe a blue chipper but do not even list you in their top ten and already have high interest in another BCS school. I only do that if I need an immediate starter at kicker or punter and he needs to be a bad ass to compete next year.

Also, don’t worry about being perfect with your recruiting board in the preseason, because at any point in the season you can remove prospects and add other high school players. This is beneficial when a player commits to another school, or you can see the inevitable when, for example, that one blue chip defensive end from California won’t budge on his top three and you cannot crack it. Just let them have him, you can’t win them all.

Other preseason jobs will be to redshirt players on your depth chart and setting up your schedule. Schedule as many home games as possible. It will help in the long run when setting up campus visits with those high school seniors. Also be careful not to redshirt a lot of true freshmen already on your roster because that will discourage a high senior in the recruiting process if early playing time is important to them. Offensive and defensive backs and receivers seem to be the positions where playing time is important.  

Executing in the Regular Season: Each week before you play your game you will have to go through recruiting via telephone. Again make sure your computer help settings are turned off, as this is a manual recruiting guide. You get 10 phone call hours per week. The columns next to your players provide information like your position and interest level on the player’s list of schools, how many schools his list is down to, gain/decline in his interest in your school, ready or scheduled campus visit, and how many schools have offered this player a scholarship and if you have or not. If a player shows a lot of interest in you early on and resides in one of your “pipeline” states (Ohio State: Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Florida) it is a good idea to offer a scholarship right away. Or if this player is an immediate need on your next year roster.

EA SportsYou have 25 scholarships open to offer per season but try to get them early. Unlike past seasons of NCAA Football, it will always be 25 since you cannot get hammered by the NCAA for violations and behavioral problems.

The options in calling a recruit is a quick call or call recruit manually. These are like sales calls. Quick call provides the option to call for 5 to 60 minutes and offer a scholarship, if you have not already. The computer will then get info during the duration you call, including their priorities or if any interest was gained on a sway pitch. The goal of calling manually should be to find out what the player prioritizes from “Most” to “Very High”. If you see a pad lock icon next to that subject do not waste time trying to “sway” that player with your pitch. Watch the icon of the face on the football because its reaction is what you want to base your pitches off of. If you talk too long or about a subject they don’t care about or a subject your school has a bad rep for, then they will get mad and hang up the phone. In turn, you will probably see your school drop on his leader board the following week. Keep that football face smiling! You do that keeping it short and sweet, and by pitching about a subject that is of Most or Very High importance to the prospect.

If it is the first time you’ve called a recruit you must find the importance of a pitch to the player so quickly go to a subject your school is strong in. QBs and offensive lineman seem to enjoy a school that is a pro factory and have high coach prestige. Once you find out the prospect’s three Most, Very High and High importance categories, schedule a visit and try to get them early. Set up the player’s three activities based on their priorities and your reputation. If your school is Elite or Excellent in the category (and you beat the shit out of the team you play that week), you have a really good shot of landing that prospect.

After the visit the prospect will grade A through F how their visit went based on everything above. If you grade A with the prospect and were already #1 on their list it will probably turn into a hard or soft commitment to your school. This will free up phone call minutes in the following weeks for players who have not made a commitment yet.  

Experience Notes:

1. Don’t forget to look at the other teams in the prospect’s top 5. This is an indication what the player places as important to his decision on a school so you don’t have to waste time finding the most important pitch. Example: If you are recruiting a kid from Ohio but his top schools are Florida, LSU, and USC, then obviously proximity to home is not important to him. He may just be looking to leave his home state for school and you might want to take him off your list. Another example: If the kid has the likes of you (Ohio State), Miami OH, Akron, and Ball State but is looking for a school with conference prestige and a shot at a national title, you better hammer that home with your pitches. It works both ways.

2. Don’t ever expect more than ten hard commits to your team during the regular season. Also, don’t get scared if you only have 4 or 5. You probably have several soft commitments at that point. “Those are I.O.U.’s sir, just as good as money.” Dumb and Dumber

3. I have not found a way to steal a soft commit from another school, but it is supposed to be possible. But I have noticed late in the season that if you need to fill spots on your depth chart and keep losing players on your prospect board to other teams, go out and get someone. Try searching for a player (not blue chip) with no offers from one of your pipeline states and just offer them a scholarship with additional talk minutes. Sometimes they hard commit to your school that day. I’ve gotten at least 6 players to commit that way. Better than chasing all the 5 star guys and ending up with a walk-on on signing day. In same way I like to play football with no turnovers, I like to recruit with no walk-ons because they will never improve and always be dead depth chart weight.

4. Scheduling Visits. It seems you should schedule your prospects based on availability, your ability to play a good game against a top team, and of course win it. For example I had a couple prospects visiting a game against USC and won 17-14 in a great game. But those players graded their visit as a B just because we only won by three. Shooting for A’s and A pluses is the goal and it didn’t work there.

The BCSThe Offseason:

After your bowl game, there are offseason recruiting jobs before national signing day arrives. This will be in-home visits you make to the non committed players on your prospect board. This is new and easy especially if you used your phone call minutes well during the season. Players who have you 1st on their list don’t need to hear much before they sign with you. The in-home visit will have subjects you can promise to the prospect that will happen in their first year on campus. As you get deeper into your dynasty (and you have fulfilled your promises) your integrity will go up and unlock other crazy things to promise on in-home visits. You can promise up to three things but make sure you can keep all of them. With Ohio State, a winning record versus rivals (Illinois, Penn State, Michigan) and winning conference championship first year on campusâ are pretty safe promises. Look at the depth chart and see if you can guarantee the prospect will NOT redshirt their first year on campus. You can guarantee a national championship and a starting position and a spot on the freshman All-American team and more, but not until your integrity rises after a few promise fulfilled years at head coach.

 

Move on to signing day and see what you got. You can see how well you did nationally and with-in your conference. Keep in mind I have probably gotten 23 players each year as it is not imperative to use all 25 scholarships. They don’t roll over to your next recruiting season, but as long as you have a top ten class and your position needs are filled, these guys will give your program some pretty awesome years to come. Championships. With or without a Tyrelle Pryor.

Tags: EA Sports, NCAA Football '09, Recruiting, Video Games

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  1. Matt says:

    Is there any way to improve all of your recruiting pitches. I enjoy playing with my favorite team, Notre Dame, but after a few seasons it is far too easy. I am currently starting a dynasty with Buffalo, but it is so hard to recruit because the pitches are all really bad. Any suggestions?

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  2. Shane says:

    I have been playing Texas so it is pretty easy to recruit. But, it is hard find a good center. So I had to move a tackle to center.

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    bigmikem90 Reply:

    @Shane, dude i have had the same problem with UT. centers and fullbacks lol

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  3. Branden says:

    I played as NIU and won bowl games 2 years in a row making them a 4 star prestige school but its still sooo hard to recruit.. my team is complete garbage now… lol.. sucks cuz i love NIU but they’re rated so bad in everything… hopefully since they went to a bowl game this year they’ll be at least 3 stars next year.. (sucks because if i remember in ncaa 08 they where a 3 star lol)

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  4. High Spyder says:

    Consider the following scenario:

    Let’s say a prospect is interested in two pitches that your school is strong in, Pitch A and Pitch B. Let’s say you are rated Very Good for Pitch A and Good for Pitch B. Now, let’s say the prospect has High interest in Pitch A and Very High interest in Pitch B. So basically:

    Pitch Rating Interest

    A Very Good High
    B Good Very High

    Is it better to pitch him more on Pitch A, because your school is stronger in that category, or better to pitch him on Pitch B, because that is what he is more interested in?

    What do you guys think?

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  5. cody wolf says:

    im in my 20th season on the dynasty and im starting to wonder how many years do i have left? can anyone help me?

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    bigmikem90 Reply:

    @cody wolf, dude ur actually on ur 20th season of ncaa 09? no way. do u work or go to school? are u a husband and or a father? how can u possibly have had the time for 20 seasons?

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  6. drew says:

    well i brought western kentucky into the sec, and number 1 ranking by year 2012….without cheating…

    that is amazing

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  7. Sean says:

    You guys should try recruiting with Army. What a b*tch…

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    bigmikem90 Reply:

    @Sean, i bet it makes it hella interesting! if u can recruit for the black knights, u can recruit anywhere else in real life lol..
    go army, beat navy!

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    jace Reply:

    @bigmikem90, i agree… and ive done it too. its fun to make the game a challenge

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  8. Mr.B says:

    another good tip is to get a school that is academically good… i used BYU and a lot of 5* players were very interested in education and i used other schools with good education and it helped a bunch… the main thing is that education you cannot really increase no matter how much you win so if you start at a school with good education then thats one last thing that youll have to compensate for in recruiting

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  9. LAkerman24 says:

    After doing a lot of research online about how to recruit.. I’ve come across a ton of success recently. I used USC which is Elite in nearly everything and after 4 consecutive seasons of being undefeated and winning 4 National Titles, it seemed like every recruit wanted a piece of me. I basically had about 50 3-5 star prospects put me as their number one with nearly or more than half their interest bar filled. Basically, after 4 seasons of moderate recruiting, pulling in 7-9 5 Stars, I really got it going.. here’s what I did beginning with the 5th season on..

    1. Target all the players you want, no more than 20. Filling your list up with more or even 35 is more work than you need and you’ll never be able to split the time evenly so that you hit all the recruits.. so don’t bother.
    2. Quickcall each of them for 20-40 minutes for the first 3-5 weeks so you can find all their pitches, rather than manually trying to do it and wasting a ton of minutes.
    3. Schedule your visits midseason and no later than week 12, unless you have to. I like to do this because by mid season I have nearly filled up the interest meter for the players I wanted.. the visits should always be used finalize the recruitment.
    4. Manually play the games where multiple recruits are visiting and make sure to really blow out your opponent. Simulating these games is usually wishwashy and even if you simulate a win, nothing less than a solid A rating from recruits will do. I got 5 5-Stars during week 8 by blowing out my opponent.
    5. After the visits, your targets should either have you as first or be a soft verbal.. continuously bombard your targets by selling only very high and MOST picthes..by now it should be smooth sailing.. granted no other power houses schedule visits late in the season. For me, even when teams did.. it really didn’t matter because I was already so far ahead of them on any given player’s interest meter, it didn’t even affect me getting his signature.

    Note: All of the above are ignoring the obvious. You need to win all your games handily and you need to call your recruits every week and hit all the very-high and most pitches week in and week out. Quick call should only be used in the early season to find out what’s important to them and only in late season when you add recruits. Don’t get lazy and quick call guys you’ve been after since the start, cause this is how you lose recruits. I know I used a powerhouse, but it’s only because I had no interest in using a team like BYU or some other mid major so I’m doubt what I’ve typed completely applies to them. Doing all this, I was able to pull 11 5-stars, 5 4-stars, and 4 3-stars (only to fill needs) DURING the season.

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  10. Cocnbawls says:

    Gooo eers

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  11. Will says:

    How do I create a player in the off season of NCAA 09, somebody please help. Thanks

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  12. AC says:

    tOSU- is the correct way

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  13. SJL says:

    It is possible to steal a soft commit. what i do is when its the offseason and 1 or a few of my prospects are soft for another team i plan a visit that week and find a most very high and very high… the following week i hardly ever lose anybody (unless i somehow get a F or im father down his list).

    in the preseason (no matter what prestige your school is) go for a few maybe more 5 4 and 3 star prospects that dont have you on their list. and offer them a scholarship. after about a few weeks or so if your not on there list or other teams are high than you in their lists then get rid of them and go and find more players that dont have any offers yet. (go to propect search and go to commitment status and pick 10 remaining schools or 8…no offers no nothin.

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  14. jace says:

    i have taken buffalo in 08 and 09… if you win your games, each year your prestige will rise, and you can get better recruits. its really easy

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